Quel'dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race

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I used to be able to read Cyrillic and speak a bit of Russian, the problem is you can more or less translate the letters into the English (Roman) alphabet, but they don’t always mean the same things, as Cyrillic has more letters in its alphabet than the Roman one.

I -think- the direct translation into the Roman alphabet would be ‘Itilion’? But as I say, I have no doubt that’s not the correct translation.

I agree this is definitely a positive move by Blizzard, and there absolutely should not be a language barrier between Blood and High Elves. Problem is they have already done this with Void Elves being able to speak Thalassian and Common. I mean logically the same would apply to High Elves, but also logically the same would apply to Blood Elves also, I mean they -were- in the Alliance, but then equally logically, Void Elves should be able to speak Orcish also, as they -were- Blood Elves.

The languages are a mess, but hopefully this is a step in the right direction.

It doesn’t, if anything it reinforces it. Blizzard is an American company, America famously had a Civil War where both sides spoke the same language, the very foundation of their Independence was won during a War when both sides spoke the same language, wresting their independence from a Colonial Power that had itself had its -own- Civil War where both sides spoke the same language, founded on the Principles of democracy first created by a country that -also- had wars where both sides spoke the same language.

Never in the field of human conflict, has a Language barrier been a -reason- for a War. Misunderstandings perhaps, but the bitterest Wars have been where both sides could, with or without effort, understand the other.

That’s more a Language barrier thing than a High Elf thing though.

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That’s the part which confused me, I just couldn’t (and, well, still cannot) see the relation between language barrier and faction identity or High Elves.

That definitely is a great move by Blizzard. I think that after allowing cross faction communication between certain races and/or classes, they are further testing the waters with that elixir.

On a side note, is that permanent or just a limited time offer? Fizzi Liverzapper usually offers elixirs with different effects (transforming the player into a Nightborne, Tuskarr, Sea Skrog etc.), so it might worth stocking up on those in case her inventory changes.

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Yeah, my guild are stocking up on them like crazy, but the implication by what Ion said is that it is not a temporary thing, or at least may be temporary till they fix the compatibility issues with CrossRP.
Given that he announced it at the Q&A and it was in game within hours, I think it is something they are serious about.

Fun fact, last night, I didn’t get a chance to grab any of the potions, as was interviewing a new Rookie for the Guild, when we were chilling in the Silvermoon City Tavern afterwards, a Human ran through saying “Nothing to see here, carry on your day” and we understood him perfectly, even though none of us had the potion on. So -you- using the potion makes the other Faction able to understand you, even if they haven’t. I don’t know if it works the same in reverse, whether he would have understood us if we spoke to him in Orcish, but it seems likely.

If so that is awesome stuff.

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That sounds great, I thought it just allowed the player to understand the other faction. I logged in to one of my Alliance characters on Argent Dawn and asked for a friend to meet me in Dalaran on his Horde character, just to test it out. Since we’ve both used the elixir I didn’t notice that effect, though we’ve noticed that emotes sadly don’t make it through the language barrier, even after drinking that elixir.

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5893

hey!

So when highelves happening?

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5894

Hopefully soon.

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5895

If you wannabe fans would have bothered to play the game or understand NO for an answer you would’ve already known it is not happening.

They are never coming and it is clearly explained in warcraft 3 AND ALSO in the blood elf Heritage armor quests that hit live last week.

https:// imgur .com/a/bcI4wRY

Accept the lore as it is, stop trying to retcon it and move on.

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5896

I would honestly believe this, but considering that we’re getting Classic in the summer of next year, it shows that persistent whining pays off.

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I don’t trust naked people

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If they bothered to add those EXACT lines in the quest their intention is clear.

Vanilla is a complete separate thing. People want that back because nostalgia and the fact that Cataclysm changed everything about the original zones without having the option to revisit them and the foundation (in the high elf case the foundation and the end of their story is available in warcraft 3 at any time now. Also warcraft remastered is coming so people can relive it with hd textures next winter. The gain from classic servers is huge cause it completely kills private servers. The Nostalarius drama and shutting down of the server also had a huge impact.

Blood elves are the continuation of high elves. That has been explained in warcraft 3 and in the latest quest and scenario. They could’ve easily added a " BUT MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL CALL OURSELVES HIGH ELVES AGAIN" if they intended to do so.

Instead they stated the obvious and the accurate and I congratulate Blizzard for consistency. Retcons are never helping a story. People that have experienced and accepted the tragic story of Silvermoon have moved on.

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  1. Please don’t use spaces in the link if you’re using this function: [</>]
    It just becomes an unnecessary hassle to link it together. The whole point of that function is so you don’t have to create spaces in your links when you don’t have the required trust level to post links directly.

  2. That can be interpreted in more than one way. You interpret it as the end of the High Elves.
    Knowing their history I interpret it as their last act as High Elves, in the meaning that after that day they weren’t the Quel’dorei anymore, they were the Sin’dorei.
    The ones who retained the name Quel’dorei are in the minority, and stubbornly stick to the name because they don’t agree with the majority.
    That of course doesn’t mean they’ll become playable, it’s not even a hint of such. Just pointing out that it’s open to interpretation, because it doesn’t say “After this day every single High Elf is dead.” after all. And we know there are High Elves in the game, there just isn’t many of them.

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The silver covenant has large numbers and is alliance friendly.
These are the high elves, the honorable ones.
You are blood elves, allied with orcs and the lich queen. So keep those and take the boid elves back too.

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Blood Elves are the corruption of High Elves.

They proved to be weak-willed, fair-weather allies.

The High Elves, which are still numerous to interact with the Alliance, ar the paragons of devotion and determination, and shining examplars of what to do when your nation embrace twisted and clearly evil policies.

Standing up to it, even leaving it to fight it if need be.

Veressa is Rosa Luxemburg, if the picture isn’t clear enough.

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relax DUDE! it’s obviously obvious that we will get highelves playable eventually, just a matter of time.

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5903

Yep, probably 4-5 expansions worth of Soon!.

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Crap I hoped the thread was finally dead for good. Sad.

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Correct, High Elves will be playable in Warcraft 3 Reforged.

Oh, you mean in WoW? That’ll never happen. Playable High Elves are sitting right next to Nightborne, Silvermoon and Suramar on the list of things Alliance will never, ever get.

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Source. The Large numbers bit I mean. They definitely are Alliance Friendly, we know that., but they are a fraction of 1% of the original Thalassian population. That’s not large numbers, I mean it is hard to find a better way to describe -small- numbers, than ‘Less than 1%’

Still more of them than Void Elves, so them being playable is not a problem, but don’t lets start making things up and saying there are lots of them, there really are not.

Ehhh, No, Elves from Quel’thalas have shown themselves perfectly capable of behaving with honour, or dishonour, regardless of which side of the political fence they are on. Technically ‘High Elves’ have betrayed their country, which is not generally understood to be an honourable act.

That’s the whole thing that makes the High/Blood Elf split so -interesting-, is that neither side has the moral high ground anymore. “But your Allies did X!” “Yes, and your Allies did Y!” Its never about the Elves themselves, but always who they are allied with. It is an interesting dichotomy.

Incorrect. Blood Elves are High Elves who named themselves Blood Elves. It really is that simple, there’s no corruption going on here, they look exactly what High Elves exposed to Fel radiation look like, just the same as the Allerian Expedition should, by Blizzards own words.

Like all Elves? It seems that along with other traits, loyalty to one’s people and serving your own interests is of supreme importance to all types of Elves.

Tell the Elves of Quel’lithien that. Definitely paragons of devotion and determination…oh yes…

Wait…you know what the Exile was over, right? You know it wasn’t Fel, right? It was about taking sustenance from creatures, as opposed to ‘things’. That’s what the Exile was over. Diet.

Vereesa isn’t Rosa Luxemburg, Vereesa’s the head of PETA. Rosa Luxemburg was defined by what she believed -in-, Vereesa is defined by what she doesn’t like. That’s a massive difference as motivation.

She didn’t ‘leave to fight it’, she was -kicked out-, completely different from Rosa, Rosa Luxemburg was never ‘Kicked out’ of Germany after being nationalised.

For Vereesa its easy to act all big and tough after you were kicked out of somewhere, and also 'Killing animals for sustenance is bad, but killing your own people because of political differences, there are no Civilians! Raaaagh!" is somehow fine? I think I’ll stay with the Blood Elf option, which seems a bit less bipolar and psychotic than the High Elves…

All of which is a way of going “Stop trying to paint the Silver Covenant as good people, they really are not. Just be honest about them, and what you want.”

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Even in the last comic about the Windrunner sisters they reinforced the idea of Vereesa tending more to neutrality.

Her own children having that debate about horde and alliance/good and evil. Also how she tried to be the middle ground at the reunion when Sylvanas and Alleria started to duel.

But again “real fans” don’t read quests and lore.

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Which is utter bullcrap because her ingame personality tells us otherwise. She is an Alliance damsel. The Sin’dorei don’t need any of her redemption crap.

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