You should maybe learn to read as i said “give darker skin tones as options to allow half elf rp because High Elves breed with humans too”
So yeah, my point still stands.
It’s all down to being edgy and dark and oh, so brooding.
It will always be too soon. Vengeance for Teldrassil! Death to the banshee queen, and all that jazz.
Yeah, that’s just weird. Weird!
What would be awesome is if all races got a few choices in body types, and generally more customisation options. World of Warcraft’s character customisation is ridiculously outdated when compared other mmorpgs.
High elves have models in-game, and moving away from those would quite honestly be moving away from playable high elves, and into something else.
If people honestly believe that Blizzard, when the High Elves come, will just copy paste Blood Elves with blue eyes, then i must say, the anti - high elves are totally, 100%, right. That will never ever happen. The High Elf community making arts and doing projects etc are not doing it just for fun, they are showing Blizzard that there are multiple ways to implement them that do make sense. Because they know, as Blizzard does, that copying pasting Blood Elves will never ever happen
The only way, and the way i stand behind, we will ever see the High Elves is either they get a Nightborne treatment where they have different idle stance, probably different skin colors (like i said giving them a half elf option) and different customizations from the Blood Elves, look at the Void Elves for example, they have different hairstyles etc even though they haven’t even been removed from the other Blood Elves for not even a year so don’t come with “ooh but those things take TIME to change”. OR they will do what a poster already said, give the Void Elves unturned skin colors.
So instead of some of you trying to push everyone in a corner begging for something that will never happen aka copy paste the blood elves. At least try to be more creative with your arguments.
Exactly, lol thank you!
Brig is confusing a lot of things. He thinks an idle stance is linked to physical attributes and specie. As if all of us humans stand and pose and wave our hand the same way.
Idle stance is just the way a person stands, due to game limitations they give every NPC and player of that said race the same idle stance, High Elves having a different idle stance from the Blood Elves in game has nothing to do with lore or heritage or whatever, it’s just the playable model.
Also Void Elves are Sin’dorei, that were just turned, not even a year of separation but somehow they have a different accent, different hairstyles, beards hell even face options. Which all make sense, why? Because it’s a game and a race needs some features you’ll recognize them with.
That only supports my unique model High Elves. Copy paste blood elves will just never happen.
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Half elves might be an option, but not integrated directly into the high elves - fullblooded high elves should be just that. If some of the blood elven skin tones have come around because of fel influences, it might be an idea to consider removing those from high elves, (but then again, Outland high elves…) but adding skintones to regular high elves sounds weird.
Different hairstyles is something I think everyone has agreed with.
Or a violent encounter with crazy void energies…
Absolutely not. Either high elves or not high elves. Void elves are not high elves!
What he’s saying is that cultural changes don’t occur massively in groups quite like that, in such short spans of time (especially considering the longevity of elves). It’s not that everyone moves in the same ways, but that huge cultural changes take longer time. Changing high elf movements drastically from blood elves would indicate a very synthetic cultural shift.
This is weird.
This is void. (The void is literally integrated into their hair!)
Void, mood, actual cultural differences due to physical, mental and emotional changes.
Probably the same. To be fair, the game is sorely lacking in facial customisation.
Void elves would be just as easily recognizable without those beards and faces, but it surely adds flavour, which I believe was the reasons for those changes.
That’s speculation. High elves already have functioning models in game, and they’re really not hard to recognize as high, and not blood elves.
Then stop asking for High Elves. I mean that -is- what High Elves are. That is, in lore, and in current game depiction, what High Elves are.
Hang on, did someone call me out for being condescending and yet a phrase like -this- slips below everyone’s radar? “You should maybe learn to read”. I think you owe them an apology Maidel.
I love the fact (I haven’t unlocked them myself, but have seen them on my Alliance toons) that there is an actual option for Void Elves to have a proper villain twiddly moustache, That’s just hilarious.
Tell me about it, Brigante just got released from gaol just because he opposed the Forsaken when they wanted to torture Alliance POW’s to death (AD Is awesome…its seriously awesome for RP stuff)
Yeah, I completely agree. Brigante is basically a Pitbull Terrier on two legs, He is very short in stature, but he is compact, and looks aggressive, small but stocky. You just can’t reflect that with the models. Star Wars TOR did it better, although also they did it worse, as I remember, with that, you made all the sliding scales then logged your character and went “Oh, that looks crap” Whereas at least with WoW you have a ‘Try before you buy’ option of “Oh, that looks crap, I’ll change it”
That’s exactly my point. We know what High Elves look like, they are in game.
Then High Elves should never happen. Which would be sad for people who want them, but yes, if they do not want High Elves, but want the US fan picture idea of High Elves, then yes, they should never happen. Because those are not High Elves.
They -are- doing it just for fun. They’re not being paid, this is because of a concept that they will enjoy…They are doing it for fun…I mean that is the definition of why they are doing it.
They are not showing them multiple ways to implement them that make sense. That is the opposite of what they are doing. The way to implement them that makes sense is the Blood Elf Model, Blue Eyes. Maybe different Haircuts. Anything else, and you are moving into the realms of “You do not want High Elves” territory.
Different skin colours makes no sense. What different skin colour would you like your High Elf to have, that is not possible as a Blood Elf? I don’t understand. What shade of pale white do you want, that isn’t pale white? I mean if you’re asking for Non Caucasian (In our world) Elves, then cool, but if not I genuinely don’t understand what special skin colour you think is even possible. I mean that would be defining a colour that does not yet exist, What colour were you thinking of?
You possibly might want to reflect upon some of your own, and rather impolitely delivered advice. Read what others say. Do not Presume.
A Different Idle stance makes no sense. Unless that is an option to be rolled out to every single Race in the game. I wouldn’t object to that, but insisting upon it for High Elves is neither lore friendly, nor particularly considerate, if it is for them alone.
Different Skin colours. We have been over this, What different skin colours would you like?
A Half Elf Option? Sure, but that’s a different Allied Race, that’s not what people here want. And fair play to them.
No. Do not. Do not look at the Void Elves as an example of how it can be done, Look at the Void elves as an example as to how it can be badly done.
They don’t make sense. Their models. Lets leave aside the whole Void thing, Their actual models, do not make sense. You can’t use something that makes no sense, to try and push a sensible request, that way lies folly.
I really am not, I am simply recognising the fact that we are talking about characters in a computer game. So do we all get customisations of our Idle Actions then, or just HIgh Elves? I mean what makes them so special as a race that they don’t…stand like the rest of their race. Because I forgot that bit where Huojin and Tushui stood different due to political affiliation. Perhaps because it never happened.
You’re saying it makes sense, whilst ignoring a basic point.
-None- of that makes sense. None of it. They do not make sense. Void Elves as a concept? Sure, The rest of it, no, they do not make sense, I try, really hard, to take them seriously in RP, but it is so hard at times.
You aren’t getting it. High Elves -are- a Copy Paste of the Blood Elves, with blue eyes. That’s what they are in game and in lore. If you want something else, like the oddballs in the US, then take that to a different thread, they are not asking for High Elves.
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I love how the Void gave me this hairstyle i currently have…
Although i agree, but this is more plausible than copying pasting the blood elves.
Too tired to explain again. Idle stance =/= movement, =/= physical =/= cultural
I already answered this, not going to bother. Try again.
It does, as seen by the Nightborne.
Yes we will definitely look at Void Elves for example, it’s Blizzard that implements races, and if that’s the way they imagine them, then so be it. Your opinion about copy pasting the Blood Elves will not actually get us the High Elves, it’s what Blizzard decides. And when they decide that their playable models should look unique to some degree, there is nothing you can do or cry about.
You are at this point just utterly confused. But i already replied to all the points you made 10 times by now.
This will be the last time i post in this thread as it turned into something that i don’t agree with nor with the demands in it as i don’t see them ever coming into the game in the state they are being asked for.
Last thoughts
I believe the Alliance should and will get the High Elves, that is supported by both the lore and the MMORPG game itself.
I stand by my point that the problem of sharing a model can easily be fixed, like Blizzard did before with other races that share the same model, by making the playable model unique yet stay true to the fantasy and heritage of that race. Be it the way they stand, their manners when they cast their spells, you name it the options are endless to make a group of people standout from the others.
The population should also not be an issue since we have playable races currently that are fewer in numbers than the Quel’dorei.
It’s really all in Blizzard’s hands now, they need to make this magic happen. We did all we could and i know i alteast did my part for the community. We will see what the future holds for this game and playable Quel’dorei.
Except you did not? I specifically pointed out that you had not answered the question, and so rephrased it.
A Nation Ten Thousand years apart. Not just over Ten.
Undoubtedly, but here we are -discussing- playable High Elves, we are not actually Blizzard developers deciding their implementation, so there is no harm in us exchanging opinions.
Then I will regard them as ridiculous, lore breaking, and will just get over it. Why do you feel this need to write ‘Cry about it’?’ It is a very modern sentiment to imply such, that disagreeing with something automatically means tears before bedtime. I am not certain why that is…
I have absolutely no confusion whatsoever. You however do seem to harbour such. You have not replied to a single point I have made ten times by now. We have not even directly corresponded ten times, so such would be some weird impossibility…
Good, let us hope so, your presence recently has been an incredibly unpleasant and unreasonable one. If you could leave this thread to people who actually want to discuss High Elves as a playable race, I am certain that would be vastly appreciated by all.
Now, Back on Topic…
What do people think about High Elf Heritage armour, would it be similar to Blood Elf stuff just in different colours, or do you think there would be a different sort of motif to it?
I think it would be better suited towards a Silver Covenant theme.
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I reckon probably so, but definitely in the same way as the Belf Heritage armour, as you can see from my set, you mix and match it with other armour sets and can create something snacky as hell.
Now a Silver Covenant theme would be good, but what form would that take, as opposed to ‘Blood Elf but in Blue and Silver instead of Red and Gold’?
I’m still toying with ideas, but you know Varian’s old armour, with the shoulder pads/Pauldrons. Instead of an eagles wings, just an eagles head incorporated into the Pauldrons, similar to the new Alliance set with the Lion in the Pauldrons? But possibly picked out in Silver, against Blue, for emphasis?
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It would work, but I was thinking more along the lines of the TBC Windchanneller’s Regalia questing set.
Use that as a baseline, add more SC colour themes and extras, then you’ve got something unique and not a complete copy of the BE HA
Your wet fantasy of how a playable High Elf should look like is not shared by everyone that wants them playable. Deal with it. In fact even YOU don’t know what you want, weren’t you just called out for saying “It’s okay to give High Elves the Night Elven model” then completely backtracking? Being quiet could work for you sometimes ^____^
I guess we share the same feelings :O. Don’t reply to my comment in the first place trying to lecture me about something we both agreed upon in past posts then expect not to get lectured back. Backtracking is something you love to do so it seems haha.
listen, this is the long and short of it;
if you make them anything other than what they are; they are not High Elves
High Elf is the name of the sub-species of Elves ‘Thalassian Elves’ of which the Sin’dorei, formerly known as Quel’dorei, are the majority part of.
this includes the Ren’dorei who are High Elves, formerly known as Blood Elves, that are imbued with the Void - becoming known as Void Elves,
and the splinter group of conservative High Elves that did not change their name
they’re all High Elves
That would be why I argue against the lore unfriendly ideas that crop up, Einstein.
Think you will find I have been quite transparent about what I think High Elves should look like, and indeed I expressed my doubts that High Elf Fans would want the Night Elven model, but if people did, fair enough.
My Goalposts have never shifted, at all.
Didn’t you just promise to do this?
Then…didn’t…
Just because a certain person i find very obnoxious replied to my comment acting witty, i decided to stay 
Then why not add something useful to the conversation. What do you think a High Elf Heritage set would look like?
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I always do, the question is, do you like it or not?
Silvercovenant would be the most logical armor look to go for. Even though i feel it lacks that “magical” feel to it. I think they can take it and build on it adding extras, like maybe give a robe option for casters or have some arcane elements added to it like that of the Void elves with their shiny legs.
I agree. I think the Silver Cov would be the logical ‘Go to’ even though I know they are just one -group- of High Elves, they are probably, in fact almost certainly, the most iconic. They actually did something similar with the Belf Heritage set, it comes with a robe or a trousers option, I just happened not to like either, so used the shoulders, gauntlets and cloak, and the rest is the Legion Hunter PvP stuff, which by happy coincidence, really matches.
I think that is definitely the way forward with Heritage sets though, making a caster/melee option,
I think Silver Covenant would look pretty good, but as I say, instead of the Blood Elf angle to the Pauldrons, with it being an eagle head instead, the reason I reckon that is more to do with the fact that the whole ‘Phoenix rising again’ thing is much more a Blood Elf Motif, whereas the Silver Cov look would be ‘Old Skool’ Thalassian chic, as it were.
Aside from that, the armours are going to look pretty similar, Its a shame there isn’t a proper blue set that really works, for those trying to RP as High Elves using the Void Elf Model, although the ‘Rift Stalker’ set (I think it is) actually works pretty well… Well, apart from the helmet and shoulders…
There was a guild on AD “The Silver Sun” who played High Elves, but on Horde side, and I think they used that armour set, which looked pretty good, but then, that comes with the attendant problem of it only being wearable by certain classes…
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