15/06/2018 19:25Posted by
Moritz I just don't like the idea of a carbon copy.
Edit: I also wish the void elves had a racial that made them hear void whispers. That would have been badass.
I agree with the void whispers although it would be a lot of work to make it appropriate for a large portion of WoW content.
As for being a carbon copy High Elves have been around for years without people mistaking them for Blood Elves. Sometimes simplicity is the answer. Regular eyes. No reddish skin tones and reddish hair. Replace them with the human hair colour shades for brunettes. New hair styles and a voice actor. A new dance... who am I kidding. Nobody get's a new dance. Some new makeup/facial hair. Silver Covenant heritage armour. Maybe we could even fix their stance so that they can stand up straight instead of doing a low-budget model slouch. If they could sort the stance and change the faces so that they aren't stuck up looking down on the entire universe like Belf/Velf do then they would have changed similar to the Nightbourne giving a different feeling even when in full armour.
15/06/2018 19:45Posted by
Casira As for being a carbon copy High Elves have been around for years without people mistaking them for Blood Elves.
I can only speak for myself but as someone that joined in WoD it took me basically a year to realise the High Elves in Dalaran were not Blood Elves.
15/06/2018 19:48Posted by
Moritz I can only speak for myself but as someone that joined in WoD it took me basically a year to realise the High Elves in Dalaran were not Blood Elves.
And I know a guy who took a year or so to realize that Blood Elves weren't High Elves. The amount of confusion he showed with regards to some evil green eyed High Elves fighting for the Horde during the Wrath era was quite large. It didn't help that Dalaran was the Alliance hub and filled with High Elves outside of the Horde area that he couldn't enter and the Alliance part of the tournament was filled with High Elves. Missing the TBC plotline that introduced Blood Elves caused misunderstandings similar to 'why are there demons on the Alliance' with regards to Draenei.
15/06/2018 11:20Posted by
Wenail Which part of that scene proves that ?
Well, aren't you just a precious little one.
That is a rather ridicolous question, don't you think? Maybe you should try and read my post properly.
You can't give a straight answer can't You?
Obviously I have read Your post and don't understand why You think that Alleria knew that she would endanger her people.
That's why I'm asking ....
And besides... I'am not little... LOL
15/06/2018 21:09Posted by
Wenail ...
Well, aren't you just a precious little one.
That is a rather ridicolous question, don't you think? Maybe you should try and read my post properly.
You can't give a straight answer can't You?
Obviously I have read Your post and don't understand why You think that Alleria knew that she would endanger her people.
That's why I'm asking ....
And besides... I'am not little... LOL
Sadly this thread is full of people on both sides that can't handle others disagreeing with them.
Although you would think those against high elves would have an easier time since we got told they wont be happening.
15/06/2018 21:13Posted by
Moritz Sadly this thread is full of people on both sides that can't handle others disagreeing with them.
Although you would think those against high elves would have an easier time since we got told they wont be happening.
The generic answer to this is WoW classic. I can then follow this up with the modern news that WoW:Classic just had a post released about how exactly they were planning to implement it.
I can then end the statement with a generic snark about Blizzard making design decisions then changing them for monetary reasons relating to public support.
Originally Blood Elves weren't going to be included either but Blizzard changed their minds for TBC due to Blizz forum public outcry.
Nightborne are literally just Nelf but addicts with tattoos.
Different posture/model.
Lightforged Draenei are literally Draenei like the name imply, but with tattoos and oh gosh, different eye color.
Same faction.
Zandalari are trolls like the trolls we already have, eyes + tattoos (spotting a theme here...).
Different posture/model, same faction.
Highmountain tauren are literally the exact same race as the default tauren (Tattoos and OMG horns instead of eyes).
Same faction.
Mag'har are literally just Orcs who did not drink green dye.
Same faction.
Kul-Tiran are humans, literally exactly like the normal humans, only difference being Blizz forces the playable Kul-Tiran to be ogres for some pointless reason.
Different posture/model, same faction.
Dark Iron dwarves just use too much warpaint and drink liquid fire, but they are dwarves.
Same faction.
I don't see how Blood/High elves are any different, a race that we already have with some minor differences.
You're right. So getting Blood Elves blue eyes should settle this.
You missed the point entirely. I quoted a guy saying they are not different enough, point being, all the allied races are basically the same races we already have, quite literally in many cases. It makes absolutely no difference to me if it's same or different faction, political reasons are the only thing that matters when determining faction.
15/06/2018 21:23Posted by
Casira 15/06/2018 21:13Posted by
Moritz Sadly this thread is full of people on both sides that can't handle others disagreeing with them.
Although you would think those against high elves would have an easier time since we got told they wont be happening.
The generic answer to this is WoW classic. I can then follow this up with the modern news that WoW:Classic just had a post released about how exactly they were planning to implement it.
I can then end the statement with a generic snark about Blizzard making design decisions then changing them for monetary reasons relating to public support.
Originally Blood Elves weren't going to be included either but Blizzard changed their minds for TBC due to Blizz forum public outcry.
Im not saying they wont change their mind in the future but I think we can safely expect them not to be in BfA as Blizzard have it all planned out and have still said no for the time being.
I think the best course of action is to wait and see what BfA brings to the High Elves and use that as even more reason.
15/06/2018 21:25Posted by
Moritz Im not saying they wont change their mind in the future but I think we can safely expect them not to be in BfA as Blizzard have it all planned out and have still said no for the time being.
I think the best course of action is to wait and see what BfA brings to the High Elves and use that as even more reason.
Why would we start posting later on? That would only delay implementation. The early bird gets the worm and if it takes 2 years of pestering for Blizzard to give in them it makes more sense to do it now than a decade later.
If the threads survive the BFA launch and we see some High Elves (Frostfencer for example) then that just becomes additional fuel that can keep the awareness of the High Elf issue high within Blizz HQ.
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You're right. So getting Blood Elves blue eyes should settle this.
You missed the point entirely. I quoted a guy saying they are not different enough, point being, all the allied races are basically the same races we already have, quite literally in many cases. It makes absolutely no difference to me if it's same or different faction, political reasons are the only thing that matters when determining faction.
But there is more than faction to consider when making a race playable.
Blue eyes is not enough to give the most played horde race to the alliance.
They need to stand out from the blood elves.
Or its just slapping all the blood elf fans in the face.
15/06/2018 21:29Posted by
Casira 15/06/2018 21:25Posted by
Moritz Im not saying they wont change their mind in the future but I think we can safely expect them not to be in BfA as Blizzard have it all planned out and have still said no for the time being.
I think the best course of action is to wait and see what BfA brings to the High Elves and use that as even more reason.
Why would we start posting later on? That would only delay implementation. The early bird gets the worm and if it takes 2 years of pestering for Blizzard to give in them it makes more sense to do it now than a decade later.
If the threads survive the BFA launch and we see some High Elves (Frostfencer for example) then that just becomes additional fuel that can keep the awareness of the High Elf issue high within Blizz HQ.
Because its been years of asking with constant nos.
This campaign still go a no.
There was a mod on the discord and it made no difference.
They clearly saw the fan art and it got a no.
And at this point the numbers in support have gone.
Waiting until there is new lore would add something new to discuss other than the same recycled arguments for and against and could spark a new wave of ideas.
I mean, do you really think that 6 months into this discussion there is anything new that can be used to convince blizzard?
Especially since the support has given up?
15/06/2018 21:32Posted by
Moritz I mean, do you really think that 6 months into this discussion there is anything new that can be used to convince blizzard?
Especially since the support has given up?
WoW:Classic took more than a decade. Do you really think 6 months is a long time?
15/06/2018 21:35Posted by
Casira 15/06/2018 21:32Posted by
Moritz I mean, do you really think that 6 months into this discussion there is anything new that can be used to convince blizzard?
Especially since the support has given up?
WoW:Classic took more than a decade. Do you really think 6 months is a long time?
WoW Classic also had piracy issues to contend with.
And a much larger fan support.
And yes 6 months of being on the front page of the forums is a long time and is building a lot of resentment to adding high elves.
15/06/2018 21:29Posted by
Moritz Or its just slapping all the blood elf fans in the face.
*some blood elf players
And just the ones who feel entitled, or are dissatisfied with the differences as they are now, and have been since TBC.
15/06/2018 21:29Posted by
Moritz Or its just slapping all the blood elf fans in the face.
*some blood elf players
And just the ones who feel entitled, or are dissatisfied with the differences as they are now, and have been since TBC.
Oh come on dont give me that.
You guys say the same all the time to not getting playable High Elves.
It is an insult to copy paste a race to the other faction with no changes to them other than those no one will notice.
I do not want Blood Elves on the Horde and if no changes are made to Blood Elves other than making their eyes blue then its just stealing a Horde race.
And before you reply with lore. I don't care. Playable races is what matter.
Make them different and you have a perfectly acceptable race.
If you want Blood Elves with blue eyes than I 100% stand with Ion and say join the Horde.
15/06/2018 21:38Posted by
Moritz And yes 6 months of being on the front page of the forums is a long time and is building a lot of resentment to adding high elves.
Who cares if they are resentful? As long as it gets implemented then they can resent it to their graves. It wouldn't be the first 'controversial' thing Blizzard have done. Nightbourne and Blood Elves joining the Horde have both been spammed to high heavens about how ridiculously forced the plot had to be to implement it. Void Elves and Draenei have had the same kind of attention but for the Alliance instead. The whole timey wimey WoD expansion is still criticized despite the expansion ending so long ago.
15/06/2018 21:43Posted by
Casira 15/06/2018 21:38Posted by
Moritz And yes 6 months of being on the front page of the forums is a long time and is building a lot of resentment to adding high elves.
Who cares if they are resentful? As long as it gets implemented then they can resent it to their graves. It wouldn't be the first 'controversial' thing Blizzard have done. Nightbourne and Blood Elves joining the Horde have both been spammed to high heavens about how ridiculously forced the plot had to be to implement it. Void Elves and Draenei have had the same kind of attention but for the Alliance instead. The whole timey wimey WoD expansion is still criticized despite the expansion ending so long ago.
They don't want to add them.
That much is clear.
The only way to get them is fan support and making more and more fans dislike the idea will only make Blizzard not want to more.
@Moritz
First page : ,,im gonna try to sit back in this topic, because theres nothing to discuss anymore"
Page 61/1150 responses: and here you are, still posting bull!@#$s, every second response is yours. Dude you have a problem.
15/06/2018 21:13Posted by
Moritz 15/06/2018 21:09Posted by
Wenail ...
You can't give a straight answer can't You?
Obviously I have read Your post and don't understand why You think that Alleria knew that she would endanger her people.
That's why I'm asking ....
And besides... I'am not little... LOL
Sadly this thread is full of people on both sides that can't handle others disagreeing with them.
Although you would think those against high elves would have an easier time since we got told they wont be happening.
It's not about handling disagreement.
To Me that scenario only proves that Alleria didn't wanted to corrupt the sunwell.
Thats why I asked why He thinks otherwise.