@Moritz
First page : ,,im gonna try to sit back in this topic, because theres nothing to discuss anymore"
Page 61/1150 responses: and here you are, still posting bull!@#$s, every second response is yours. Dude you have a problem.
What can I say.
Idiotic replies drew me in and once here it was hard to ignore.
@Moritz
First page : ,,im gonna try to sit back in this topic, because theres nothing to discuss anymore"
Page 61/1150 responses: and here you are, still posting bull!@#$s, every second response is yours. Dude you have a problem.
He's reminding me of a certain blue party in the USA that wanted everyone to stop talking about things they don't want to hear. Not for their sakes of course but rather ours.
15/06/2018 21:48Posted by
Casira @Moritz
First page : ,,im gonna try to sit back in this topic, because theres nothing to discuss anymore"
Page 61/1150 responses: and here you are, still posting bull!@#$s, every second response is yours. Dude you have a problem.
He's reminding me of a certain blue party in the USA that wanted everyone to stop talking about things they don't want to hear. Not for their sakes of course but rather ours.
Then keep doing what you are doing.
All I know is you are not helping yourselves.
15/06/2018 21:42Posted by
Moritz And before you reply with lore. I don't care.
I do care, though. And so do loads of other people. Lore is important!
15/06/2018 21:42Posted by
Moritz It is an insult to copy paste a race to the other faction with no changes to them other than those no one will notice.
Like they did with void elves, if the characters are in full armour? And insult to whom, exactly, though? The high elves already are in the Alliance, and have been since before Vanilla, and in Vanilla, and every expansion. A handful of blood elf players will get "insulted" over high elves becoming playable, looking similar to how they appear in game right now. And no more than the ones who already rant and wine over every change this game gets anyway. Some people appear to quit this game and swear to never return each freaking time there's a patch! The naysayers will naysay, and then they'll get used to it.
15/06/2018 21:42Posted by
Moritz Playable races is what matter.
Yes. Playable high elves matter. And they won't even diminish the blood elves' value at all.
15/06/2018 21:42Posted by
Moritz If you want Blood Elves with blue eyes
We want high elves. As they appear in the game now, preferably, though we're open to some slight changes.
15/06/2018 21:42Posted by
Moritz than I 100% stand with Ion and say join the Horde.
No thanks!
15/06/2018 21:51Posted by
Moritz Then keep doing what you are doing.
All I know is you are not helping yourselves.
That's your opinion mate. Telling people to shut up to help themselves is generally a way to get people to look down on you and possibly spit.
if the characters are in full armour?
If that makes a difference put full amour on a void elf and you're done.
If thats not good enough then full armour clearly does not matter.
And insult to whom, exactly, though?
The Horde who's race you would be copy pasting with making no noticeable difference
The high elves already are in the Alliance, and have been since before Vanilla, and in Vanilla, and every expansion.
Yes which is why I am completely open to them being playable so long as they are different to Blood Elves.
And no more than the ones who already rant and wine over every change this game gets anyway.
Oh really.
Do you have anything to say that or just conjecture?
I think a lot of player would be upset with it.
The naysayers will naysay, and then they'll get used to it.
Will you get used to not having them?
Then clearly that doesnt ring true.
Yes. Playable high elves matter. And they won't even diminish the blood elves' value at all.
If they are Blue Eyed Blood Elves they will.
If they have a Human or Celtic theme or perhaps another good idea not raised yet then not at all.
We want high elves. As they appear in the game now, preferably, though we're open to some slight changes.
If that was true then there would be no concept art.
Speak for yourself.
You want a Blood Elf.
The Horde is there for you.
15/06/2018 21:56Posted by
Casira 15/06/2018 21:51Posted by
Moritz Then keep doing what you are doing.
All I know is you are not helping yourselves.
That's your opinion mate. Telling people to shut up to help themselves is generally a way to get people to look down on you and possibly spit.
Spit all you like.
I just don't like seeing the High Elf cause killing itself because it doesn't know when to stop.
Same faction.
High Elves and Void Elves are also on the same faction.
Same faction.
High Elves and Void Elves are also on the same faction.
This argument is clearly about playable races and not NPC races.
It does not apply
High Elves and Void Elves are also on the same faction.
This argument is clearly about playable races and not NPC races.
It does not apply
Why not? They are in exactly the same situation as all the other Allied Races.
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This argument is clearly about playable races and not NPC races.
It does not apply
Why not? They are in exactly the same situation as all the other Allied Races.
They would be if playable.
Until then they are just an NPC.
And even if that was not the case they have far less factors than any other allied race.
They need more than eyes.
15/06/2018 22:14Posted by
Moritz ... Why not? They are in exactly the same situation as all the other Allied Races.
They would be if playable.
Until then they are just an NPC.
And even if that was not the case they have far less factors than any other allied race.
They need more than eyes.
Sure, they may also get a diffrent idle posture, different hairstyles or something. But they are basically just uncorrupted Void Elves.
Let me ask this.
If High Elves were a Horde race, would you think Blue eyes were enough to make them an Allied race for the Horde?
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They would be if playable.
Until then they are just an NPC.
And even if that was not the case they have far less factors than any other allied race.
They need more than eyes.
Sure, they may also get a diffrent idle posture, different hairstyles or something. But they are basically just uncorrupted Void Elves.
I am all for different hair to make them stand out from Blood Elves.
But it should not be hair that could easily sit naturally on a Blood Elf without question.
Give them human hair and you got a new race.
Give them the Celtic stuff and you have a new race.
Celtic stuff would probably look fine, but the wild theme that was tossed around some time ago just doesn't suit them, in my opinion. We already have wild savage Elves on the Alliance. They are Night Elves.
Celtic stuff would probably look fine, but the wild theme that was tossed around some time ago just doesn't suit them, in my opinion. We already have wild savage Elves on the Alliance. They are Night Elves.
They're just ideas to make them look not like clones.
My personal preference is human influence but as far as I know there is no concept art for that.
15/06/2018 22:02Posted by
Moritz Will you get used to not having them?
I
am used to not having them. I've been used to that since vanilla.
15/06/2018 22:02Posted by
Moritz Celtic theme
Why Celtic? What's the lore basis?
15/06/2018 22:10Posted by
Moritz This argument is clearly about playable races and not NPC races.
It does not apply
In your opinion. In many others', it's a highly valid point, that absolutely applies. See, high elves are a part of the Alliance flavour. They are. Right now. Present time. Alliance. Very similar to blood elves. And they don't ruin anything. Making them playable wouldn't ruin anything more.
15/06/2018 22:14Posted by
Moritz They need more than eyes.
Hair styles and postures have been suggested, and are largely accepted as making the different enough while still remaining what they are today. Markings as well, as long as both sides get them, though in different colours and patterns.
Et voila!
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Let's see. Nightborne are literally just Nelf but addicts with tattoos. Lightforged Draenei are literally Draenei like the name imply, but with tattoos and oh gosh, different eye color. Zandalari are trolls like the trolls we already have, eyes + tattoos (spotting a theme here...). Highmountain tauren are literally the exact same race as the default tauren (Tattoos and OMG horns instead of eyes). Mag'har are literally just Orcs who did not drink green dye. Kul-Tiran are humans, literally exactly like the normal humans, only difference being Blizz forces the playable Kul-Tiran to be ogres for some pointless reason. Dark Iron dwarves just use too much warpaint and drink liquid fire, but they are dwarves.
I don't see how Blood/High elves are any different, a race that we already have with some minor differences.
WELL SAID!
#highelvesasalliedrace.
I totally agree and have said the same myself.But it's also important to add that High Elves historically belong to Alliance,while all those similar races feels like they were 'forced' into the two factions.
#highelvesasalliedrace :)
Of course it feels forced. Lore is subservient to gameplay ( sry my english is not the best). Original horde races (orcs,trolls,tauren) could not bring the expected numbers. So horde needed alliance races to keep up. And the lore was shaped accordingly. That's why some main characters are acting strange...