Question for anti-RDF people

You also start with titans grip and have like 8k dps on lvl 12 … xD

Also dont forget that both lvl 10 and lvl 60 can go into RFC and fight the same boss …

Was referring to chatting, but ok.

Exaggerated. You have around 150 DPS at lvl10, twice as much as Ican deal in WoTLK at that level; not 10x as much.

I could enter RFC at lvl15 (the required level for RDF on retail) and solo most of the dungeon.

Fair enough. Even I lost most motivation to talk to peoplein the RDF tool though, kind of pointless knowing I’d never see them again.

The only time I talked to people in RDF was when I found their character name amusing.

When that raid was the biggest thing to happen in wow lore and ended a storyline that had gone for near a century, being “the same” when you had been growing all the way up till then isnt a positive, that is still a negative, even worse when you realise how big ICC/Lich king was for the the lore.

This isnt an argument to force another mechanic that doesnt actually adress the real problem, which is low player participation and server pops.

We saw that pre Wotlk there was no issue finding people anywhere for dungeons cause people were leveling with 50% bonus xp.

I am not even against some form of RDF for classic and tbc, but i dont care for it either.
I would much rather have proper server handling and weekend xp events for example and a simple dungeon teleport maybe.

“well recieved” yea. No. I am gona need some proof of that. And PS dont cut it.

DJchimp vs Logic and DJchimp loses, as he always does.

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Dont bother mate this guy has nothing but fallacies to go by, RDF didnt increase anything, infact when it came during the peak of the most important raid and boss in prob wow history, most anticipated event it started stagnating and dying out in growth before cataclysm. There is no evidence for RDF keeping or retaining anything, there is a lot of evidence to suggest the opposite however.

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If you were somehow actually socially able to make a lot of friends, you would realize that doing it in a game is even easier. Dont go throwing stones when that comment evidently destroys its own premise.

Try again.

You have more post on an internet forum than you do achievement points in that forums actual game. Yeah try again who ? You do not have any social skills clearly.

He has more achievement points than active braincells.

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I believe you’re either purposefully exaggerate or don’t even know what century means. With W3 Frozen Throne released in July 2004 and ICC raid released in December 2009 it doesn’t even qualify for a decade much less a century. Lich king as an entity also wasn’t nearly a century old considering about 29 years passed from Ner’zhul becoming LK and Death of Arthas.

As for the sub count you’d be wrong since WotLK as a whole didn’t really grow much compared to original release or even TBC. Since we still have data from that period of time you can easily check that Wrath as a whole was a flatline with a noticable dip before ICC patch after which it climbed up, remained the same for the entire year before picking up right before release of Cataclysm. And with the way WoW and especially WotLK has been designed I can’t fully claim it was because of ICC no matter how loved it was.

I just played retail again while lvling to 70, I did 2 RDF, a random person got kicked from the party both runs… not a singe word of communication… NO, I realy don`t miss this toxic retail community behavior, RDF is still one of the worst things happend to wow, right up there with flying mounts.

The sub numbers alone are proof of that.

Oh really ? How do you know my achievement points ? :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
Try again.

And my work needed soft skills and i was known in my work for that.
Try again.

It’s right there next to your class and level…

Jesus Christ. 981 dollars >.>

Do you have a permanent carer? If not, you’re a danger to your work environment. I hope you don’t operate any form of machinery.

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Warcraft 3 frozen throne is the third game in the franchise, warcraft 1 was released in 1994… Like how hard is basic stuff for you ? I said century by accident when i meant decade. Which it more than qualifies for “warcraft” as a franchise.

W3 was the ending that fulfilled with WOTLK, however the rest of the Warcraft franchise was still a build up till then. The whole world and much more…

ICC was beloved and that is evidently true from a bunch of metrics, not alone reimaginings and reuses of Icecrown and ICC later on, there was no dip before ICC worth mentioning again you are the one claiming the opposite happens with RDF, the only thing that happened after RDF is stagnation and lowering of the sub numbers not the opposite, which you are claiming is the case.

Yeah try again buddy, the evidence is in the yearning for peoples attention :slight_smile:

Riiiight then that’s about 15 years. Still no century and by world’s calendar less than 30 years have passed from first Orc Invasion to death of Arthas. Now keep in mind that Ner’zhul wasn’t introduced till second game’s expansion in 1996 while his role as Lich King wasn’t established till W3. By that logic the story didn’t really cap and end till legion now did it? Lich king in itself is it’s own contained story.

You just gonna not read where i said i accidentally said century instead of decade and act like you made a new point ?

Read what i wrote…