Quick guide on how to gear your alt for PvP quickly at this stage of the expansion

This guide isn’t skill related but it’s rather about convenient way of gearing without help of your friends. I don’t say you will instantly get into every group and get 220+ ilvl but getting there will be easier and what’s also important most of the process will be possible to be done alone and there isn’t much RNG in it. You also won’t need to ask your friends to tank too much rating and drop mmr to get you geared. I’ll spread my guide into few parts, so let’s start:

  1. Choose your alt

What classes/specs would make the best alt? These classes are either these which use these covenants in the order Necrolords > Kyrian > Night Fae > Venthyr. Someone will ask why? Let me explain. Every covenant has it’s set of gear that you receive from doing you covenant storyline and what I found is that every covenant has different stats on it’s set. Necrolord’s gear is the best entry gear (in most cases) because it has versatility as main stat on every piece. It might not have desired combination of let’s say versatility > haste but at least you’d have enough versalitity to win some games and farm conquest points with desired combination of stats. Specs that prefer Necrolords as their covenant choice are:

  • Elemental/Elemental Shaman
  • Frost/Unholy DK
  • Assassination Rogue
  • Restoration Druid
  • Mistweaver Monk (this is not 100% true as top MW players are almost evenly split between Necro and Venthyr)

Niche covenant choices for Necrolords that work:

*Arms Warrior (Smexxin made his Warrior Necrolord and his Arms/Ret/H Priest is know to be dominant in the ladder. Necrolords is very potent choice if you play Turbo, TSG or Arms/Ret with your friends. Overall any class that struggles with snares and benefits from mastery would love to play with you. I was theorycrafting a bit about Affliction Warlock).
*Ret/Holy Paladin (after Divine Toll nerfs that weren’t actually that scary many people considered Necro after buffs but Kyrian is definetely better option)
*Demo Warlock (if you want to have fun with gimmick Demon Bolt build with Balespider’s burning core legendary it’s the best covenant for you)

Does it mean that Kyrian, NF and Venthyr shouldn’t be chosen. Not at all. Kyrian has Versatility on most pieces (2 of them don’t if I’m right), NF doesn’t have it on 3 but it’s not dominant stat on most of them and Venthyr literally doesn’t have it on any. I’d avoid Venthyr but if you really want to then this guide is actually for you. A lot of specs related to Venthyr were recently buffed and these are:

  • Arms Warrior (the most common choice for Arms)
  • Sub Rogue
  • BM/Survival Hunter
  • Disc/Holy/Shadow Priest
  • Enhancement Shaman
  • Mistweaver Monk

Niche Venthyr choices are:

  • Holy/Retribution Paladin
  • Frost/Fire/Arcane Mage
  • Restoration Shaman

With NF and Kyrian I leave it as your choice but farming their covenant gear is viable option.

  1. Farm 15000 honor before you reach lvl 60 (optional)

This point isn’t mandatory and you don’t need to get 15000 to make it work but the whole idea is related with the fact that going into battleground as fresh lvl 60 or even with 168 crafted gear will be frustrating because you won’t really contribute to wins. In 50-59 bracket you will be able to do more and if you are a class like Druid you can solo win them by just carrying flag or just by being solo healer keeping your team alive. This honor you will spend later on trinkets and if you have extra honor to spend for rings and neck because these aren’t included in covenant gear. During honor farming stage you wan’t to play your bis covenant but more about it later.

  1. Swap your covenant to Necrolord (if you are Venthyr)

You can swap right after farming honor or right before getting level 60 because covenant swapping during Treads of Fate has no penalty and you can swap limitless times every few minutes.

  1. Get your Renown level to 22 and get all covenant pieces of gear

Very important fact is you should avoid doing LFR or avoiding these progression quests like “aid Venthyr” etc. because you want to use them for quick source of Venthyr renown and keep in mind that every conduit got as Necro will be reset with swap to Venthyr. My advise is just to clear few normal/heroic dungeons between every campaign chapter. They have the biggest chance to give you renown and you will get some anima that you need for later.

  1. Farm anima to upgrade every piece

This is straight forward just do all possible WQ. It’s of course convenient to farm them while you are doing campaign so you can store some anima already. Just don’t upgrade your covenant perks.

  1. Swap to Venthyr

If you have all pieces at 197 ilvl you can feel free to swap. I know what you think. You hate PvE, covenant storylines and crap - me too but if it saves me from farming honor as 22 k hp pleb or playing arenas when I’m too instantly removed or carried then I’d take it. More than PvE I hate being carried.

At the end of this whole process you should be 190 ilvl with 22% versa or a bit more. It should be enough to get invited into low CR RBG and Arena groups where you can farm conquest and honor points to replace pieces with stats that aren’t desired. This should make your gearing experience less frustrating and I think it might actually be faster. I just wanted to present this alternative to you.

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Demonology Warlock also. Underrated spec.

  1. Whip our your credit card, buy tokens and get boosts.
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I talked to Slavgodx and he still prefers NF and Demonic Synergy over Demon Bolt build. Demon Bolt one needs to many conditions to work while Demonic Synergy is more reliable and has quite good steady damage.

If you really want to pay so much for 16 y.o. game why not.

Those 20k demon bolts though…

This is a very detailed and well informed post.
Thank you for your time and effort put on that.

Very good guide, but this bit is at least for my class wrong. I just made a new priest on horde side, leveled to 60 a few days ago, and the boots and cloak of the venthyr cov set have vers.

Yes, but these are two pieces while Necro has it on every piece, Kyrian doesn’t have is on 2 and NF doesn’t have it on 3 as far as I remember. Venthyr is 100% the worst. It also depends on armor type as far as I remember. Venthyr has haste on most pieces.

For sure, for sure.

So I am not sure if the extra effort grinding the necrolord campaign and then changing cov to venthyr is actually worth though. I made a horde priest leveled it up on last monday and right now it’s 203 ilvl with mostly pvp gear, i only went on venthyr campaign because it felt too tedious to actually do necrolord first.

Actually the only Step that matters in this “guide” :rofl: :joy: :rofl:

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Edit: Ofcourse that is by gamedesign , not the fault of the guide itself.

Fact is the Stats between the gear and all the steps you have to go for to actually and finally be able to play the game are disgusting.
If you “just pay” to get the better gear immediatly, you should probably check out what time/money value you have and go with your choice of that.

Edit2: what i want to say is if you have money and value your time rather pay for a 1,8boost and farm conquest gear in another breaket from the very beginning

Nice guide! I Also suggest to play an healer spec. Its far more easy to get invited to rbg. I’m playing retry in arena and holy in rbg and got to 1.4 rating super fast. Also avoid class that can be played only in combination with an healer, eg warrior… Otherwise u ll sit in lfg forever. Another option is to play a war and an healer and find someone who is playing both too. It works!

But you didn’t play with LFG mate 100%. You played with better geared friends. This one is dedicated to these who want to do it on their own without any friends help. I don’t believe that someone would invite 14% versa Priest with 22 k hp to the group in LFG and this guide is dedicated to these. Also as I mentioned I hate being carried and being two shot by fully geared people. This way you can gear completely on your own doing some random quests. Sometimes I work late and I want to chill after work in WoW. That’s the time when there are barely any LFG groups and no one would invite undergeared guy. That’s when I do my campaign and farm some anima for my gear. Overall getting full 197 should take 3-4 days.

This is the main reason I find it good. For some specs Necro is so good that it has better stats than actual honor gear (Elemental Shaman for example). I don’t say that if you just have a friend who will help you playing only arenas isn’t better but you need that friend and sometimes I don’t want to drag my friends down.

I have a Priest that I leveled up to 60 yesterday and he is 180 ilvl now. I literally need to farm some anima and finish last chapter of the expansion to get weapon. I think he will be 190 tomorrow if I farm all anima I need. Then I’ll swap to Venthyr and I can just play the game already.

Right on the no LFG, but wrong on the better geared part. I actually played with a friend who leveled at the same time as me. I did LFG rbg though.

Ok so it’s good way to compare it. I leveled up my priest on Sunday, you on Monday. We will have good samples to compare. Tomorrow I should be Venthyr already so let’s see how much will it take me to get 203 with no friends just LFG. We will compare played as well and then we can judge if it’s worth.

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I mean, I think what blizz need to do it just go back to rewarding 100 conquest per win until youve caught up. 50 for normal BG wins, 100 for rated arena wins. That would be the easiest way to fix catching up with an alt imo. This is the easiest simplest fix to PvP alt catch up.

I made 3-4 posts about this already but since they didn’t change it yet we have to deal with what we have available and that’s what I tried to do it here.

Yep, I’ve posted several times about it too. But they can’t even fix the Mind Control bug. Struggling to see what their priorities are within the game at the minute tbh

TBH after gearing up a fresh alt, my conclusions are these:

  • conquest cap is too slow to do. There is no justification for that at this point in the season. What they should change would be for it to award the same it does now, but not less than 2% of your remaining cap in 2s, 3% in 3s and 8% in RBGs. That way, they would help low geared unfun chars get some gear to make the game fun, but it would still take some time to do the entire cap.
  • soul ash has no catch-up mechanic. It’s ridiculous that my legendary item is actually one of the less good items I have after 1 week of playing.

Aside from that, I think doing Maldraxxus campaign first is a bit of a waste of time tbh, but it’s for each to determine on their own. If you aren’t starved for time and can play at leisure (I am, so I tried to skip as much of the chore’ish stuff as I could, such as boring story quests), then I suppose there’s no loss.

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I checked Venthyr cloth gear and it has only Crit/Versa boots.

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#dzzz0zJ8z9M8f8zO8r8zj8w8Mw8i8MF8wJ8mCb8sm8zyd8R08zdg8RZ8zje8RB8zA28RQ8zTl87F1Pq8081PG87c1O587V1PT8081Ps8081PA8081Pf8081Pm87a

Necrolords one has versa on every piece but not many with Haste

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#dzzz0zJ8z9M8f8zO8r8zj8w8Mw8i8MF8wJ8mCb8sm8zyd8R08zdg8RZ8zje8RB8zA28RQ8zTl87F2ag8082aB87c2ae87V2aD8082aE8082aC8082al8082av87a

Kyian doesn’t look too bad but slightly less versa pieces than Necro

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#dzzz0zJ8z9M8f8zO8r8zj8w8Mw8i8MF8wJ8mCb8sm8zyd8R08zdg8RZ8zje8RB8zA28RQ8zTl87FZ3E808Z3F87cZ3l87VZ3J808Z3C808Z3H808Z3D808Z3B87a

Night Fae is still worse than Necro and Kyrian but better than Venthyr.

https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#dz0z0zJ8z9M8a8mvz8s8zjP8q8znM8b8zxJ8fh8M2Q8d8zh8fu8M218sc8zya8fG8M308k58zdy87FZqN808Zqt87c1At87VZqB808ZqG808Zqv808ZqT808Zqf87a

I don’t get why should I swap to venthyr if other covenants are better or more fun to play with?