DK can already do it so why not Hunters? A Warlock on my team got Death Gripped through the walled barricade in Frostwolf Keep by a DK today.
roll fire and do the same unstoppable damage and never cast once
It needs to cancel on LoS, and you can’t move while casting it. That would fix it in my opinion.
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Get a clue already. You are complaining about a class which is so weak, it’s not not even funny…
You also admitted yourself, a hunter loses to most match ups against melee classes… But somehow you want to make us even weaker so casters can roll stomp us as well? I challenge you to play a hunter in the arena, then you will realise how wrong you are…
Lmao MM hunter tier set in 10.2 is an F at best. Just have a look at any critic/guide etc. they all say it’s terrible. And after having a look, I agree with them…
They reworked it since
The old one wad F tier yes i agree
But the new one last time i tested the tier set was not nerfed in PvP, creating a crazy burst
I am not sure if this is true, however even with a good burst MM hunter is still mid to terrible…
I remember during the first weeks of season 1 when we had a really good burst. Then they changed the talent that enabled it (with something which is useless nonetheless) and after that MM became unplayable again.
I mean seriously, the point here is that when your defensives and and utility suck in comparison to other classes and the only thing you have going for you is burst damage (which essentially makes you a glass cannon) how are you supposed to play when the said burst is taken away from you??? I mean you people want to take away the ONLY thing that makes MM somewhat good? How is that logical in any capacity?
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You have to realise that blizzard just isn’t concerned sometimes, as long as the ratio of unviable specs amounts to ~6 or less.
BTW: Hunter looks super bad. Probably the worst animations I have ever seen. I don’t even understand why people play it.
Sorry i am main MM that already reached 2.4 in Ranked Solo Shuffle
And my opinion on defensive is we are good in defensive.
without offense, most low rank hunter forgot that as hunter the main part is to avoid taking damage and not tanking the damage.
I see many that try to play for example Marksmanship like they play a evoker.
Marksmanship is about using root on every target, not just melee but also versus ranged to substain themself, playing around pillar versus caster and use our “instant shot” so we can maintain pressure on target while stopping caster using spell on us.
I shadowland i would agree that we would have lacked defensive, but with dragonflight and the introduction of Tenacity of the Bear and Survival instinct got buff to 40% damage reduction, we are now viable in defensive and hunter don’t need more defensive nor need more offensive.
The only thing i wish for MM is to nerf that tier set, that tier set have grand risk to make basic spell of MM nerfed for nothing instead of nerfing the tier set.
Marksmanship and Survival hunter are perfect without tier set, they must not be buffed or nerfed at core. The only imbalance that create is tier set ( that since shadowland i am against tier set since it create by design every season imbalance in PvP ).
I can’t speak for Beast Mastery, for nor i play it nor i met good people yet playing it in high rank ( 2400 + dragonflight rating) to know what is their state
Meet the draenei hunter attack animation :
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male : www.youtube. com/watch?v=wBboHVc5sLw&pp=ygUVZHJhZW5laSBndW4gYW5pbWF0aW9u
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Female : www.youtube. com/shorts/0pQB6iMiD3w
Most badass race for hunter
Absolute trash, sorry…Look at your projectiles !!!
Aimed shot, sniper shot, whatever shot - all look meeeeh at best, blaaaarghh at usual
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Compared to a chain lightning overload under Stormkeeper yea the annimation is meh
but a good sniper fantasy is good !
the visual part of MM hunter is looking at the big numbers above the enemy’s head. you sit at 60 yards and just watch people die to air, like setting up a deck chair and watching the fireworks.
“ooo, 328k sniper shot.”
“oh nice, 60k rapid fire ticks. hit him 7 times with that. nice!”
“lmao, 218k aimed shot crit”
“98k arcane shot, huh? isnt this my filler?”
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Solo does not count. It is not organized arena like 2s/3s, your not going to learn to play your class there. Your not going to learn how to properly CC healers or CC chain them together with your teammates like people do in 2s/3s. Everything is just PvE dmg SO it doesnt count at all. 3v3 is Men’s football and Solo is children’s football.
People that play solo will never get good at the game and get real knowledge about how their spec is supposed to work. They will never achieve good skills, the moment they que 2s/3s they get their butt kicked back to Solo where they belong. You having achieved 2.4k in solo means nothing you have no knowledge about MM class.
You are still Unranked with no knowledge. Sniping people from 60-70yd in Solo and BGs hiding behind your healer seems to be your experience ‘omg OP hunter’. Wait and see if people allow you to do this in 3v3, there will be consequences. I suppose you havent played 2s/3s enough. I wish blizzard could force you to do 3v3 and put you against organized double melee all day long 
Your weak opinion would drastically change.
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Lol, for a 2.1 mm you sure did look clueless in that eye of the storm, not sure whether your high while posting your nonsense, but your comments are certainly invalid, deviating the topic, we’re not even talking about rating but an ability, fix your brain and stop pretending to be a pro-gamer teenager with silly statements, you troll.
Talk is cheap, and it is you that needs to take a break from PvP since it is affecting your way of thinking.
Kind regards.
For who was that response? 
Sorry, Destrarion, I’m with Bac on this one and I played BGs with both of you xD
Saying Hunter has good defensives is something I can really not agree with
Speaking of BG situations: Imho MM hunter has a critical lack of self-heal compared with basically every other DPS spec 
Now that the dispell of feign-death has been nerfed, camouflage is also more of a gargabe as a “way out of fight and and recover”-utility. If you don’t position well (yeah, try to be 60 yd away at any time) or have a healer on your back you are in big trouble vs. most other DPS specs (to me it feels like hunter eats more dmg than many other classes).
In 3s arena (not solo shuffle) I would assume MM hunter not really being on a good position, but I also have 0 xp in the last expansions here
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something that has 60 yards range in the first place shouldn’t have good defensives.
hunters do more dmg without cds than most melees do with their cds up.
if you want hunters to have more defensives rapid fire and aimed shot need to be gutted hard.
if any of you ever played boomie the 45 yards range was amazing it essentially made it take zero cc at all and i could just do my PVE rotation completely unhindered from range, mm hunter just has it like this even easier.
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It was towards Bac, I don’t agree with his views.
A spec that has good defensives together with high DMG and self heals will
undoubtedly be OP. MM does not have any of it; only DMG and people here are suggesting to nerf the only thing MM has in store. If it were to happen MM is going to rot forever and no one is going to want us in their team. Some say to give MM (or hunter in general) better defensives in return. By having observed how blizz devs operate, they have never focused on giving hunter decent defenses. Its easier for them to buff our DMG than to spend some weeks in their office and get creative with new defenses for us.
I have seen the horrors when MM was useless. Most notable in bfa and SL S1 after double tap nerf. No one wanted to have anything to do with us. Most heartbreaking was when healers asked me what spec I was when I applied to their LFG group (2v2) and denied me based on what spec I was. Some of them knew me from before, and knew I was a decent player. They begged me to switch to either BM/Surv so they can play with me, but I never did that. That was in sl s1. This was the situation MM was left in, after DMG nerfs sls1. MM will be dead dead dead if DMG nerfs were to happen and put us back into bfa/sls1 nightmare.
Summary: Almost all classes have good defensives and self heals (non hybrids aswell!!!) coupled with good DMG. This makes a spec complete. They have GREAT mobility. MM has none of that. No mobility, defensives and self heals. MM is not a complete spec! Devs dont want to spend time making our spec complete. Only logical solution then; They MUST give us the HIGHEST DMG in the game, and by far. We currently sit at 0.45 (45%) more dmg (in PvP) than others, in fact it needs to be more 0.70-0.80% (70/80%) So we can compete with other specs. And our new set is going to help us further to pump OUR dmg onto our enemies. Strike hard. Merciless damage. From camouflage, and for those that dont press defensives and dies; graveyard will be your new home to rot in.
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It has the highest burst what are you on about?
I’d rather they buff their survival and reduce the dmg of the combo aimed shot + explosive shot +rapid fire has.
It’s too much dmg in too short a time.
The dmg is like an arms warr on steroids and 50 yards weapons lol
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dunno i crit 232k mortal strike on my arms yesterday life is good playing a op spec
i think it would be fine if blizzard simply reduce range of this pro abilities. To 30 yards. I dont get why u can laterally oneshot ppl from range where they cant do anything. Also too short CD.
And btw 98% of players doesnt care about balance at 2400. They never been here and never will. But at random BG you can be 2 button idiot and thats enough to be top1 killer as MM.