You are underqualified (Significantly) to judge a games integrity when you can’t even attain the lowest pvp rank in the game.
Please seek professional help so you don’t waste your time on a game forum you don’t even play.
I already told you, i’m one of the best players on several true PVP games.
Not fake PVP like this, where you have addons and RNG (LOL).
You’re annoyed because i proved your rating means nothing. I get it. But you should not have fallen for such an obvious trick…
Rating does not belong in an MMORPG. Basically all RPGs are inherently casual by design, yet WoW players want to pretend this is different.
Again, you have no argument so you try to target some other made up nonsense. The argument, on the face of it, has you beat, so all you can do is flounder and make up stuff.
Let’s see you present a counter point to what i said. I’m betting you can’t. You already know you can’t, otherwise you already would have.
Your ego is stung by the harsh truth, and you want to lash out at me.
I didn’t even read your 2 page paragraph, all I need to see is your checkpvp and nothing more.
ok show your explanation for that
everyone has the same gear above like 1600 rating there is literally no difference. So you are wrong here.
everyone uses the same addons. Literally every play above 1500 has access and uses the same 3 addons that are “mandatory” for pvp and it takes like 10 mins to install them even less with skillcappeds addon bundle. So again, you are wrong.
there are players with 150 rounds at 2800+ rating in shuffle. Most players at lower ratings have WAY WAY more rounds and are not even close to that. So again you are wrong.
in shuffle you cant pick a comb and in AWC everyone can pick any comb. Of course a good comb plays a crucial role in 3s but everyone can pick that comb. So again. You are wrong.
of course but in the long term if you will always climb rating if you are good enough. If you are constantly playing good and not doing mistakes you are carrying bad players and climb the ladder. Thats a fact. Good players show it every single season when they climb the ladder in very few games.
If rating would be all rng then every season different players would be at top ratings?
And that is why i win.
Ad hominem = forfeit. The end. You’re clearly not smart enough to argue with me, so it is all you have, i get it. I accept your resignation.
I play way harder games than this one. This is like a baby game by comparison. Don’t try to talk down to me when i’m better than you. This is a baby game, don’t forget that ; with a rating system that is fake and tricks babies who are dumb enough to fall for it. You have no counter argument, only ad hominem, therefore, you are one of these babies.
Funnier still, you experience is necessary to actually understand this flaw. Now, i have experience. But you can prove what i’ve said without any. It is basic logic.
Variables that are not minimized, and RNG cannot be taken seriously in competition. Like i said, you may as well start having competitive uno at that point.
To answer the other question from the next person.
“Everyone has the same gear past certain rating”.
Right, except… IT ALL HAS DIFFERENT STATS. IT IS ALL DIFFERENT GEAR.
So another variable that creates significant disparity.
“everyone uses the same addons”
Which you don’t know. Also, someone who may be the actual best player may not know about addons. Therefore, again, a problem with uneven playing field.
Oh, and if people have less plays and more wins, again, i point to all the other variables and RNG that could give them an advantage.
There is nowhere you can come out of this argument and i’m wrong.
In shuffle, you can’t pick a comp, okay, but you also don’t know if you’re going to get an optimal or sub optimal one. You may get a string of optimal ones. Again RNG. Luck. Another reason rating is meaningless.
Also, everyone picking the their comp doesn’t mean that is their skill as a player. Again, if they pick an easier one, they could be worse than their opponent and still win. Yet another reason rating is meaningless in defining player skill.
If someone is using easier stuff, they may beat someone using harder stuff. Therefore, what is rating?
Now, everything has variables, but if you look at the vast majority of competition that is taken seriously, it involves minimizing the differences… Reducing variable WHERE POSSIBLE.
WoW has not done that at all, which is why the rating system is laughable.
There is no way to win against my argument here. Variables mean uneven playing field. RNG means uneven playing field. Meaning someone can have higher rating due to sheer luck.
How would you know? You can’t discern it. You can pretend it is discernable, “Look! He won! Therefore he must be better!”. It isn’t that simple, sorry. There are factors outside their direct control that can dictate the outcome.
I know you want rating to matter, you want it to really mean something. But it just really doesn’t. It doesn’t belong in an RPG… The very concept is laughable for the reasons i’ve explained above.
This is some hard copium. Vanilla is available right now, you can play it
Oh, it’s hard copium? I guess we’ll take your word for it, as you’ve presented no argument.
Again, another win for me.
Try to argue with me against my argument, or i win the argument by default. You’ll quickly find there isn’t one, and that you’ve been tricked into thinking rating represented something it doesn’t.
If anything, it is an indicator on who is playing on the easiest difficulty, that is about it.
You probably think classic system didn’t have rng, gear difference and critical hits?
If you don’t I won’t argue with you
It did have RNG, but the game wasn’t pretending to be something it wasn’t back then.
He thinks crit is the reason he is below 1k cr in wow
I wont even read what he types i value my time.
LOL
Ah, yes, won’t even read what i type… What an excellent argument strategy. You’ve sure showed me.
I win.
Oh, and the fact that i beat you in this argument also proves i’m smarter than you, which means whatever we both apply ourselves to equally, in a contest of minds, i’ll come out on top (assuming it isn’t luck based of course, we all know how you love that).
Your loss in this argument means my rating is higher than yours, i just simply have to decide to do it.
Like, just post your IQ already; that is a more accurate rating than anything on this game.
Or let’s play a game that requires no gear or rng. I’ll show you that i’m better than you. I bet you won’t though. You’ll chicken out.
you are not smart enough to understand how to quote responses in this forum but talking about being smart 
no pretty much everyone uses the same gear/stats. Its 1% or 2% difference thats it.
you could say that about every game. Someone could be the best in the game but does not know strat XY. If you dont have any addons you are most likely not experienced in this game. 99% of pvpers above 2k have the same kind of addons. It requires 10 mins to install them.
you are either dumb as hell or are simply trolling of you really think its just rng that people are at high ratings with multiple chars of the same spec with very few rounds played in multiple seasons in a row while others are NEVER even close to that ratings.
do you even realize how cringe and sad your behavior is lmao? You are either 14 or you have some big issues going on in your life.
A) I did quote responses, just not in the format you wanted me to. I’m just too lazy to quote in that way. I just go by memory from what i read, and save time, because it is more time efficient than the alternative. Yes, i did see the very obvious quote button, wow, so complicated; just incase you thought i was unaware.
Pathetic ad hominem attempt = Another win for me.
B) Different classes, completely different playstyles. All massive variables. Stat calculations in relation to every ability and class in the game also a variable. Ridiculous to try and argue that the stats being the same or similar means anything under those circumstances.
Also, me claiming to prove i’m better is not cringe, because i’m not the one who tried to cast judgement based on skill.
So, i offer to prove to them i’m better. That isn’t cringe, that is a willingness to prove that even in terms of skill, i’m better, if that is the metric they wish to go by.
C) Do you read? I didn’t say it was only RNG, i said the variables and RNG make it impossible to discern who is truly the best. Please read first before posting.
D) I have addons, i just don’t want to use addons for what is a casual game; because this is an MMORPG with RNG and gear and class and ability imbalance, where it will never be even in any meaningful way… This is a casual game trying to roleplay as a serious one.
If you want to test your intelligence against me, you’re more than welcome. We could play chess right here in the forums. As always, you people are all talk, and will never prove anything.
None of you have any real argument that i haven’t countered. Either you’ve misinterpreted or used ad hominem.
Your view of things being different than those who argue against you on a very … up to personal opinion topic =/= you being right and the others wrong.
u mean raid shadow legends/ clash of clans? your wallet have to be really big my man
Another Ad hom = another win for me
You can’t argue against me.
Also, someone mentioned this topic was personal opinion? It isn’t. There is no disputing massive differences having an impact on discerning who the best players are.
Oh, i forgot to mention consumables too…
See, you know why these things are in PVP right? Despite everyone asking them to take consumables out. It is because to not have them in arena may impact the game market, and make certain professions worse.
They crowbar it all in there, and it is simply impossible to balance, and so… Rating is a joke.
HAHAHA This proves that this person never even played a single game of wow arena ever.
Hold the L you’ve been exposed.
Edit: I cannot hold my laughter thank you, you’ve made my morning hahahaha
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HUH?
You can’t use any consumables in arena.
I know this is the forums, but wow… Imagine spamming hostile posts where you try to appear intelligent (failing miserably at that btw), and not knowing the first thing about arenas just stop typing, save some dignity.
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And he expects people to take him seriously when he doesn’t know anything about arenas, Move along people this person got exposed from the second he made this topic, The following insanity of statement he made proved this even further.
haha Ls back to back from the start of the topic to finish.
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