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To be fair Steven Galloway did admit to an affair with the student in question, to me that is abusing his position of trust.

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I aint reading that but thanks for the mercy shot.
Its truly insane what is going on. I mean large amount of girls are putting clothes on to reveal their body parts and when someone looks at some of them they start raging around? What? I mean you put those clothes and reveal your front because you want people to see it nothing more. You want people to see it on the street and that is all. Now these nutjobs appear out of nowhere and start controlling everything…

Can someone confirm if Swifty has actually been destroyed?

Sure, his NPCs have been removed temporarily from the game but I would guess that he still has a sizeable fanbase who are still enjoying his content. I have seen nothing to suggest that his stream has been taken down.

ITT: ignorant sexual abuse enablists

Based swifty posters instead

There will be even more of them if you don’t bring back swifty
blizzard employees are not judges or cops and azeroth is not a court of law

and this is not just for swifty is for all players

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Well… Now there is a lesson for all of us.

MvPs are not blizzard employees at all .

Only his name is in the title and there Is a forum CoC about spam

Spamming or Trolling

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  • Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums
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  • Making non-constructive posts
  • Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages
  • Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements

If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity.

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It’s a funny thing.

For years, the dude has been nothing but polite, respectful and kind in his streams. And this isn’t something you can act for so many years without people realizing, if it isn’t your true nature.

Years and years of it, and then suddenly a girl shows up with a written story that’s about many years ago of a story that just doesn’t fit his character.

And all of a sudden everyone blames swifty without even having a proof, other than what she said. and of course, blizzard senses a 0.000000001% of trouble for themselves, so they IMMEDIATELY back away and remove his NPC.

It’s kind of sad to see how easily people can turn against you, even if the accusation is false.

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Are you saying that people are pro sexual abuse because we would like some evidence along with a serious criminal accusation?

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Thats fine, I am nothing if not a kind man and a gentleman at that.

In seriousness though, I don’t think thats the issue. Thing is, none of us know.

-If- Swifty is guilty they deserve punishment.
-If- his accuser is lying, they too deserve punishment.

Now people bang on about false accusations (Which I totally believe can and do happen), but these things have to be investigated fully, and by people who are qualified to do so.

None of those people are us. As I say, the people investigating are not -allowed- to talk about it. Same way as Jurors are not allowed to talk about the cases they hear whilst serving on a Jury (Although I bet some of them do…)
However, The law (at least in the UK, I can’t speak for everywhere) does protect people who have been falsely accused, to the extent that the false accuser rather than being told “You silly person, what were you thinking!” can be sent to jail. In fact there was a court case last year where an accusation was made, was found incontrovertibly false, and the false accuser did indeed face some serious jail time. So it isn’t as simple as saying “If a man gets accused they’re automatically guilty” When it rather patently is not the case.

Now, the seperate issue is that of reputation. The problem there, is that it ceases to be a legal issue, but a media issue.

How did all of us know about the Swifty thing? Did the Court issue a statement to all WoW gamers? Nope. It was a media issue.

Media is this horribly fickle beast that feeds on itself (Ironically Streamers are part of this process themselves) In that it will screech about how horrible something is, then turn and screech about how horrible it is that people are pre-judging a person (which is horrible, I’m not denying that, it should investigated, but not under public excoriation) because thats what -sells-.

The only thing people love more than a scandal, is being told they should be outraged about a scandal.

I didn’t even know about this Scandal, to me, Swifty was some (expletive not included!) who crashed my server years ago. It was ages ago, I’d almost forgotten about it. I didn’t even know they were still a ‘thing’ until suddenly it is all over the General Forums. Basically -we- are feeding the beast. -We- (and I include myself in this) are making it a thing, when it could be baseless accusations, or it could indeed be true.

Blizzard removed an NPC from the game. Wow. So What? They do that a lot, as it happens. It only became an issue because suddenly everyone is banging on about it. They removed an NPC from a game based on a person who is facing some pretty severe accusations, distancing themselves from the process, which is actually a corporately responsible thing to do, and a thing that businesses worldwide do, if there is a pending investigation. If the investigation totally exonerates Swifty, then they’ll probably reinstate the NPC, same way as Businesses have reinstated sponsorship deals with celebrities if they have been unfairly accused of something.

Thing is, because the accusations are of an incredibly emotive nature, involving accusations that we rightly should take seriously, suddenly everyone has an opinion, which only makes things worse, because suddenly it gets blown up. This is why in every post on this subject I have -always- said “I don’t know the facts, -you- (The generic you, not you personally Galaxyk) don’t know the facts, so lets wait and see?”

Basically this arguing is actually making it harder for people to stay objective and ultimately making it -more- likely that this person’s reputation will be forever tarnished with the accusation.

I hope that makes sense, like I say, we’re not well informed enough to say “This happened” or “This didn’t happen”.

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Ive been accused for things despite me being AS*XUAL!

Its * stupid how easy it is to ruin carreers.

The outcome I had made me lose most emphaty towards humans. Months of people picking on me without any proof.

What a trash race. Ptfuii.

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not so sure about that, in some American states assault is defined as ‘anything the ‘victim’ is uncomfortable with’.

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Can you give me an example of just one? as I’m not aware of anywhere in the western world, where the simple act of asking someone out is regarded as a criminal offence? I mean, if there is as US State where that is a criminal offence, that just goes in my bag of “Reasons why 1776 was the dumbest thing ever”

i can’t sorry, my only source is a police interwiew on tv, but yeah, any unwanted attention is harrassment and reportable, which is the word i was looking for not assault sorry.

Ah, fair, I was gonna say, that would be madness. I mean that still is madness, as then it removes the whole possibility of evidence and proof, but then America is not exactly the most sane country right now, but yeah, I was pretty sure even they hadn’t gone that far! :smiley:

It’s as if people don’t want to be associated if he is found guilty! What a shocking and odd thing to do, not like something companies do whenever a scandal like this happens.

It’s an NPC that can easily be readded. Get the F*** over it.

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That’s what happens when you meet a girl on line :sweat_smile:

Just stay away…you never know…you might lose your account :rofl: :joy:

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Honestly, most of these types of threads gets derailed by 2 or 3 people. I don’t really blame someone for wanting to make their own thread so that it doesn’t get drowned in a battle of egos.

Ok i have a quetsion - who is swifty and why should anyone care about his life and his deeds ?