Really sad but think I'm done due to premades

If there’s a mode that doesn’t guarantee Premades in Random (The ‘Forever Alone Battlegrounds’) then I would be doing that one all the time.

Depends what kind of content you do. I’m quite happy only doing Random BGs and WPvP, with no ambition to do rated unless the weekly quest is up and I am desperate for Conquest so if the former gets ruined, there isn’t much for me to do.

That being said, I’ve done about 10ish BGs this weekend, even got one IoC with Fistus leading on his Alliance alt, and like two of the BGs (non-epics) had a premade on my side and one were RU on enemy side, but can’t tell if the RU players was a premade or not. They steamrolled our healer, but you don’t need to be a premade to all stick on the healer…

There are no cures for any kinds of cancer and this fistus guy seems is another cancer like larkus and drex and pandora for pvp community. unfortunately blizzard cant cure cancer.

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Explain why these people are cancer?
Larkus? Ok he syncs.
Pandora no longer syncs.
Drex synced for a time, ever since he is back from his ban, he has not played in sync premades.
I play in small groups of 3 players on average and lead random teams with strat calls.
That equals cancer?
Which rules are bent or broken?

So much salt in this thread.

You doctor?

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The test to my knowledge were premades ONLY against premades. No randoms.
What I said it have to be the same amount of premades and numbers on both sides with randoms.

If what I suggested increases que time for premades abit… Sorry, why would I and other people who want more balance care about that?

Depends how the nerf is. I can only see that ppl will do anything to avoid it.

If you believe it made the game better by improving premade and syncing situation… :person_shrugging:
I already said it was good for some ppl, but it made the SITUATION worse.

Do you have difficulties at seeing consequences on things you see is great?
I personally see it as obvious how it makes the situation worse while nothing else was added to fix the situation itself.

Ill try to explain it as easy as I can.

It makes it easier to 5man stack premades. (while it was easy before, this made it always possible regardless.)
It makes it easier to get a big group going for syncing on either side since theres no real stopping the jumping. (Dont need to look for 10+ppl in your faction. Can invite anyone anytime.)
If they had made it so you would get randomly into horde or alliance while doing it, it would have lessen the impact. But thats not the case right?
Apparently, according to some testers, its based on which faction makes the group.

i believe that if you introduce a new game mode right now exactly like blitz is now but without duo que and also with hard penalties wich make syncing impossible, it would be the most played bracket of all.

so this discussion is nonsense. jibberish. jaga wooga wag wag. call it what you want.

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Oof nice one

You are like politicians.
“I didn’t break the rules”, sure, but what you’re doing, you and your goons is not ethical

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cancer is a self defensive mechanism, occurs to solve an issue that will occur eventually in the melodic future (melo = mellon in greek) dont blame cancer

Yep, came back some days ago and instantly regretted it. Battlegrounds are unplayable because of those losers. Will play classic for the rest of my game time, will not see s2.

Battlegrounds are the reason why i want to play WoW but those are in such a sad state, no point for paying for this.

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This will not change ever, Blizz already stated multiple times it is not against TOS to group sync; everything working as inteded.
I guess botting, afking, disrupting BGs is also working as inteded.

See you in BGs with your super-mega non-premade groups.

It’s not the same thing at all.
Stop proposing this when we want to play random stuff.

Stop spreading false information dude? Like I already wrote several times: there is up to now NO stance from Blizzard known except the one here below.

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Then tell me your character name, thanks!

:heartbeat: Premade :heartbeat:

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Do u need one?

But these bottom-feeding parasites that have already all but killed the game with their play styles and attitudes, will stop at nothing to get into whatever bracket they can. They want to disrupt and destroy every aspect of the game that they can, whatever game mode gets introduced in the future, these exact same absolute scrotes will be there, trying to suck the life and soul out of it and saying “But friends” as the game becomes more and more of a ghost town.

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I never played SoD so I have no experience, but I was told the queue times sucked for everyone after that change and it was reverted for a reason.

Also it shows how egoistic you are. You only care about solo players, namely those who are too weak to win on their own when going solo and you will gladly ruin the queues for any player who chooses to join with friends.

How about a stacking debuff for random bgs targeted at players who join in groups.
5% less health
5% less damage and healing
5% more damage taken

For every group member.
In a full 5-stack, that would be minus 20% on everything for all 5 group members, because it stacks up to 4 times.

In the same patch: abolish synchronized premades by mixing the factions and give players who decline invites a deserter-like debuff that prevents re-queuing and increases in severity the more often you decline. Also, make deserter account-wide and make it longer the more often you leave.

What would this do?

Players could still play with their friends in random bg, but it would no longer be an advantage to go in 5 stacks. A power penalty would balance the reliable quality of teammates you get from it. All group sizes would be more viable and queue times would not increase for anyone.

Sync premades would be GONE from epic bgs. Only groups of up to 5 would remain.
Deserting and logging on a different character would be punished more, which would be an incentive to not give up. Also, there would be fewer unwinnable games against sync premades and 5-stacks in random bgs would be much less oppressive, so people don’t have to desert that often.

It would solve so many problems for everyone with almost no downsides if these changes were implemented. I also don’t see how anyone would avoid them. Let’s say you want to play in a 5-stack but avoid the power debuff, you couldn’t do that, since factions are mixed and you might end up playing against your premates, so syncing up into the same team is out of the question.

It makes it easier to invite your friends of the other faction and play in groups with them, which is a welcome change.

It is a change that will hopefully be introduced In the future. But I never used this feature to sync, I just find it nice that I can invite players of the other faction and join with them whenever I want.

Yes, it works like this.

First of all, not my goons, but the players who play with me. Thank you.

Secondly, if random bgs and epic bgs allow for all group sizes between 1-5 players, how is it unethical to play in groups of 3 players on average, like I usually do? And it’s not like I always stack my group with particularly strong players or only play in 5/5 groups. I just take everyone with me who wants to tag along and I am fine with going solo when there is nobody around.

I genuinely find it hard to not end up in a group.
Today I returned from work at 6 AM (I worked last night) and signed up solo for some random bg and epic bg. We won the round and a priest from my community recognized me and asked to play together, then another priest from my FL came online and joined in. The next round, we faced a Zado group and lost, but a random paladin in that alliance team liked my calls so I told him he could tag along and he did, then a fifth guy from my FL also wanted to join.

I started solo and ended up in a 5-group within 1 hour.

How come you guys are so vehemently anti-group in a multiplayer game where grouping up with other players is explicitly allowed? How come you can’t find anyone to play with when it is so easy?
It doesn’t do you any favor, you guys are miserable.
Your posts reveal a deep-seated envy and resentment towards those who do well, slave morality in its purest form.

Nothing would prevent you from doing what I do. You could look for players to team up with and make strategy calls to coordinate your teams, then you would actually win. Nor is it unethical what I do. You could be having a great time out there and enjoy your victories with friends.

But you would rather wallow in self-pity and brand those who do well as evil, even if they do nothing wrong and play this game as intended.
Sorry to be blunt, but that is completely and utterly pathetic.
Come to reason already and accept that in a game that allows players to play in groups, some players will play in groups and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as they don’t sync.

Are you intentionally being stupid or what is this?
Have you intentionally ignored what I write just so you can say I somehow only have a care about solo players?
Well, not too surprised considering your attitude.

You are aware that every single thing being suggested would work in one way or another right? The only reason you cry about my idea, is that you MIGHT get a slightly longer que time.

The only way YOUR idea would work, is if they actually mix the factions. The other parts can half work or would not work based on if mixed faction is added or not.

Add that, sure, maybe my idea wouldnt be needed anymore. But that is ONLY if they do it.
Just drop the “everyone hates premade to death” attitude. I dont give a fk about premades with friends like ive said quite alot of times already.

So basically, in short, you cant see consequences at all. Unless it affects you. Understandable.

I already wrote it before. Them adding it is not the problem. That was a good thing to do.
The way they added it with no other fixes are only good for 2 groups. Premades and syncers. Alot of ppl are already fed up with premades and syncers.
So them adding something that helps those 2 groups will automatically make it worse for solo players. Unintentionally I might add.

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Sad that so many ppl call all this online figures “friends”.
The truth is the majority of these ppl just use this term as excuse for their behaviour, so it doesnt sound so bad what they do and try to let it sound like the non premaders/anti syncers are the ones with the bad attitude.
Ofc there are ppl that play with real friends they know in rl and for a long period of time, but cmon, as if you have 9-14 “friends” that play with you this game, or even just 2-3 are many, considering the society nowadays.
Stop using this word and call it how it is: “People who use each other to make their own game experience better”.

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