Reclaiming Gilneas (spoiler 10.2.5)

I have always been a fan of Gilneas, I have always dreamt that Blizzard will do something about Gilneas and someday do something with the city or at least finish the storyline that started so many years ago.

And it finally is here, out of nowhere. Shouldn’t I feel good about it? Uhm, not that much?

It felt like a rushed tiny storyline. Reclaiming Gilneas should have happened in Battle for Azeroth maybe? Fight the horde for the City? Remember the “don’t worry about it, you will fight again for the city, this time with the whole force of the alliance” or something like that, that once night elf NPC told us at the end of the Gilneas starting zone. What did we get? We fought side-by-side with forsakens against priest heretics, which everyone forgot they even exist.

Don’t get me wrong, I loved the cutscenes, the Genn moments and stuff. But the whole storyline, everything… felt like a rushed thing they “had to do”. I am so grateful that we finally get for whatever reason Gilneas back, FINALLY, but, sorry, it doesn’t feel right NOT fighting the forsaken for it, getting no redemption for the massacre from back then. Whether there is a reason or not for having the Scarlet Crusade there, fighting them in a really tiny storyline is not what I expected or hoped for, whenever I thought about reclaiming Gilneas.

Just my opinion.

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Just finished it. Half a dozen quests, and a couple of cutscenes. I enjoyed the fluff but there’s barely any actual gameplay to it.

Just glad I’m not maining a worgen!

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i was thinkin to level a worgen for this. so its useless and disappointing?

Genn fighting his inner conflict, got bossed around by strong, younger woman and the scarlet crusade came out of nowhere.

We need Garrosh and Varian back.

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It has its moments of nostalgia related to the starting zone, and for someone who has been waiting for this for a long while, and is nostalgic about the starting zone and everything, it is worth. But other than some short dialogues, rushed quests and an interesting cutscene, (and the t-mog, mount and toy at the end) there’s not anything else. It is a 15 minutes experience maybe?

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The whole Gilneas reclamation was such a sad pile of nothing. We team up with the scourge, somewhy, no vengeance, just Greymane crying a bit and a nice girl boss moment. Stamp it and ship it, done, and done.

Come on, the reclaimed gilneas doesn’t even have a flightpath, let alone anything else. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Made no sense as a horde. Really, if they wanted to give me that top hat and that mount I’ll never use, they should have just mailed them to me.
Happy about Tess however, she’s one of the girlbosses I like.

It was, fine. Just fine. Like I didn’t expect the horde to stop us, but frankly, the Scarlet Crusade being there makes almost no sense. The entire thing feels like an afterthought.

Someone else said it, but this should have been a Warfront in BFA around 8.2.

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The Horde assisted reclaiming Gilneas, I was there! No fighting me when I’m helping.

I quite enjoyed the storyline, Genn was suitably mistrusting of the Horde assistance.

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I did not find that enough. 2-3 Sentences from Genn that he does not trust the Forsaken is not enough. We are talking about the faction that massacred his people, their people, the whole city, don’t forget the plague/blight. They lost the city for so many years, and so many people died by their hands in that same city, yet we recapture it together, friendly, from a neutral faction that came out of nowhere. Sorry, I for one don’t buy it, don’t like it, it does no justice to what happened storywise in Gilneas.

As I said I am thankful that we finally get Gilneas back, but the way we take it is wrong, in my opinion. This story should have taken place in an expansion where we the two factions are not BFF.

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i totally agree. its true the time normally cures those kind of things… but maybe this solution is somthin… weird.
That’s it. i hope gilneas could be the next exp a proper zone with life and other stuff.
And if they add a worgen pally could be my main.

I had the same thought but no, I don’t think it is worth it. Everyone can wear the transmog and ride the mount so there is no need to make a Worgen to unlock it. Once was enough, it was shorter than the Undercity one I think?

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There are various players who just want the warmongering stories repeatedly. In game we play with both factions, we are in guilds together, we fight the enemy together. It makes sense to me, for the game to reflect that too. That is not diminishing the terrible acts both factions have brought down on each other. It’s just moving on.

Some cities are neutral going forward. Everyone is fully expecting Silvermoon to get the same treatment in Midnight.

I personally enjoyed it as a Horde, I will probably do it on an Ally at some point as well to see the difference in dialogue. I particularly liked that we did the reverse route that you do as a Worgen levelling. Keeping the tunnel with the rats reminded me of when I was coming the other way on my Worgen, many years ago now.

You are totally entitled to feel the way you do about the story. I’m not trying to tell you otherwise. We’ve seen anger from some Nelf players in the same way about Belameth.

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ill try this or this eve or tomorrow. using the famous meme: “i was expecting nothing… but im already disappointed”

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Ah yes, I forgot it would be different for Alliance. This, besides the fact Nelfs/Velfs cannot be Paladins, is the only reason I have a Horde character.

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The retaking/reclaiming of Gilneas storybeat is coming a decade too late to tie up in a satisfying way. They had to put the crusade as a random thingy we both dislike, as factions. Only time will tell if they will have a bigger part to play in the story.

I am still so glad and so happy that Gilneas is taken back and might actually really happen something there, that I am willing to focus on that more. And no, I don’t want to see the same stories repeated, BUT this storyline… this retaking of Gilneas… is horribly wrong.

Forgive me for not wanting to share the moment of glory of retaking the ruins of my homeland together with the very faction who chased me out and destroyed it in the first place. The “Horde and the Alliance are friendly now” works up to one point. And, imo, this is one story where it just D-O-E-S N-O-T W-O-R-K, no matter how you look at it.

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Im Reading the lore of w40k now and i couldnt imagine a retaking of any planet raided by chaos and occupied by waaaagh orks from a force of chaos astartes and primaris space marine.

It could have been be a very good occasion to reignite the war between alliance and horde.

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Forgive my ignorance, but didn’t the Forsaken use the gu in Gilneas as well? Wouldn’t the plague make the land inhabitable for a certain amount of time, similarly to radioactivity? Or at least get some Druids to heal the land? Am I seeing too much in stuff? :dracthyr_shrug:

I agree on that time can heal things, but this comes to the fact of “forgive, but never forget”. I haven’t done the campaign yet, but I’m honestly baffled how the Horde comes to the picture… like any of them. I know I need to catch up on things, but this will baffle me till the end.

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I liked the cutscenes and basic storyline (esp the call backs to the worgen starting zone quests). It all made sense but Im severely underwhelmed with the Gilneas you get at the end!
I was hoping for abit more life. A flightpath or portal maybe (although worgens do get a HS type toy). A few more vendors, some NPCs you could talk to and interact with.
It honestly just felt like the same ghost town after I finished the questline!

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Really silly that there is no flight point.

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