I think they have realiesed this TBH and thats why we are getting more customization options with explanatory questlines instead.
Obviously we can still have Allied Races when it makes sense, like Vulpera though.
The quest to unlock it wasnât anywhere near good enough to justify adding them in the first place.
Also, rolling a red Draenei and doing Ammen Vale⌠wth it feels so weird.
As per usual, theyâve got it backwards. Red Draenei should be called Eredar, and when you roll one you get a new starting zone built upon Argus with ~30 new quests to get you on the road. Feel free to use the same landscape in a new phase, thatâs fine. But not this trash. Anything but this trash.
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Where does this come from? I donât recall seeing it anywhere, so I assume itâs the quest chain to unlock the skin colour. I havenât looked at that yet.
Except, draenei are eredar, as well as manâari and lf draenei, and other problem is, there is not only red manâari, you have blue, pruple and also grey ones so only restricing the manâari to the red skin tones is not good.
Enemy Infiltration - Preface
A book in Revendreth.
Thanks. Is it considered canon?
It doesnât make sense for Eredar to be playable at all then.
I mean its in the game. Its located in the tower thatâs named after the Dreadlords and we know they have infiltrated the cosmic forces on the behest of Denathrius (argus death was planned for instance as he was required to shut the arbiter down). So yes.
Oh, sorry, I see what you mean. I thought you meant it was an actual book set in the WoW universe not one that can be read in game.
I dont think you need to bother with all that TBH.
We already have Exiles Reach, you can just start any weird customization options off in that starting zone and it makes sense as you are already going there as an established member of the Horde/Alliance.
Its a great way to explain away any odd addition they might come up with. I mean if the Lore doesnt bother you then you can use the original starting zone but the option is there for Lore nerds!
Exileâs Reach sucks, and only serves as a bad excuse to not make low level content while simultaneously failing to root every player playing any given race from understanding its cultural roots. Itâs disgustingly lazy.
Your post is fundamentally correct, but I strongly dislike the view.
What you asking exactly? You ask where to start the quest chain?
What do you mean? To be fair, anything can be explained or can make sense. And you logicaly play eredar when you play a draenei
Beytter idea imo would be to rename the draenei playable race into Eredar.
it dont matter blue or red you are all beutiful
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Iâll take what we got, but I agree that they should have had a much more involved questline and starting zone. They also should not be classified as âDraeneiâ when hovering over them, but rather as âEredarâ (or âManâariâ if you chose the new skin options).
It does feel kind of odd to be playing as a demon in Ammen Vale, working alongside the very race that the Eredar were trying to eliminate during that time.
Yes, but Eredar are not Draenei. It makes no sense for Eredar to be running through the Draenei zone, and it hardly even makes sense for a Draenei to walk through an Eredar zone given their divergent histories and hatred based on physical and spiritual characteristics.
Thatâs fine, I wasnât talking about that. Eredar diverged from Draenei.
They could do that, but then, depending on skin tone, you should get different starting zones. Which is kindda weird.
They are, you confuse what is Eredar : All draenei are Eredars, but not all Eredars are Draenei, thats the same with manâari, all manâari are eredars but not all eredars are manâari.
Its just a matter of semantic : The race was and is always called the Eredars, the Draenei are the eredars who left Argus and refused the fel, the Manâari (which btw is a name given by the draenei to the eredars who took the fel) still call themselves eredars. But in truth all are eredars, the termes draenei and manâari are just a way they used to separate from each others.
But now that they dont need to run anymore, and the fact they retook Argus, they dont need to be called draenei (exile) anymore. So according to the current lore, calling them eredars would make more sense.
Actually draenei are even purer than manâari as being eredars, because the manâari are eredars that got altered by the fel, just like lf draenei are eredars who got altered by Light.
Lothraxian is a dreadlord who is lightforged so it would likely work
No. Given any Eredar, it may it may not be Draenei. Given any given Draenei, it is always an Eredar.
Therefore playing an Eredar that is distinctly not a Draenei in the Draenei starting experience feels off.
This isnât that complicated.
You are just saying what i said but differentlyâŚits like if you said âGiven any Human, it may it may not be English. Given any given English, it is always an Human.â
In other words, Draenei is NOT a race, Eredar is.
I dont talk about starting zone, i talk about the race being Eredar, even if they call themselves Draenei, they still eredar. No matter hw hard you try to avoid the fact.
And Lothraxion have no trace of fel so no it wont work.
Then what in the world are you doing responding to a post entirely about starting zones?
I honestly donât understand why you felt the need to tell me that Eredar are Draenei when this is plainly not so any more than Humans are Englishmen, to take your example. I explicitly stated they should be considered a different race because the starting zone doesnât work for them and because theyâre racial calls upon the light even though theyâre demons. Itâs just phenomenally silly.