Each time Blizzard adds something new characterwise, I get excited. Until I remember I play on Argent Dawn.
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This is so me.
To be honest, I will give players who choose to play Warlocks or Man’ari the benefit of the doubt, even though I fear the worst. Can’t say I’m a fan they are even being added in the first place, but hey ho, what are we going to do about it.
I just dont trust Blizzard to give us an appropriate reason for the Man’ari to join the Alliance, after seeing the lackluster explanation they gave the Draenei warlocks.
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Isn’t the lock questline have a Lightforged Warlock and some resemblance of an “explanation” to justify their existence?
It does, but I got the impression it was moreso how one individual Lightforged justifies his views to himself, rather than trying to push for acceptance amongst his own people. I can’t remember everything that was said though.
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His view is that the light never “saved” them, but only lets them survive. Each time preserving Juuust enough for their people to continue, but never thrive.
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Go for it honestly. The Light and Draenei society in general is all about that Christian forgiveness of your enemies, look at how Draenei largely have forgiven the Horde for their genocide against them. Velen especially being their supreme religious leader is of course going to be obeyed by the majority of characters that are accurately playing a Draenei.
You know what they say about those who defy the edicts of the Pope after all.
I think there’s a lot of space for penitential Man’ari having seen the wages of their greed and pride across the universe now realise that they have to change.
It could also be more cynical. The Void is the great threat to both demonic and light orientated peoples, why not put aside differences or be consumed in all consuming darkness?
There are so many ways you can roleplay this out. Sure you’ll get cringe tier Stormwind RPers making a complete goat’s tail out of it but that literally affects (hopefully) no one reading these forums.
I mean you can also play a Draenei radical who does not accept this, which is cool. I played a pariah character for well over two years myself. Though the thing with such characters is they must either eventually reconcile or be deleted from the universe so to speak.
People have been ragging on for more racial lore for years and then we get some and its all a hissy “NO NOT LIKE THIS”. Make up your minds.
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I already said it multiple times and discussed this in guild. But notice that the customisations do not have green fire on it, warlock class trainer is Broken. And there apparently is going to be “repentance” questline. I’m almost certain that what we are geting are Eredar cleaned of Fel. But since Fel does alters genetics, the mutations will remain (look at orcs), and they have been demons for millenia. Now we just have to wait for the questline. I think this would be perfect compromise between red skin and not accepting demons. Also notice those black eyes. I RP with one cleansed Eredar whose eyes are black and that’s even before this was announced. Blizzard might have just stolen some fan ideas on cleansed Man’ari.
For me, if you play a Man’ari, just to be good and part of the Alliance, kind of ruins the theme for them. Instead of being some scheming villain. Be it alone or in a guild.
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At least the Eredar’s scenario will directly relate to the Alliance/draenei. Same can’t be said for the Darkfallen. It was purely a “maybe baby” for Nelves.
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I mean, once its actually ingame that the Alliance did accept the repentant Man’ari Eredar into their ranks…
I see now reason they would not allow the Darkfallen into their ranks. The Darkfallen’s crimes aren’t even a dot on the radar compared to those of the Man’ari. And unlike most Man’ari, presumably, most Darkfallen did not choose to become Darkfallen.
And no, I will not accept the BS that Darkfallen got raised willingly and then insta-turned on their former kin for their killers en masse. They were clearly mindcontrolled or shown a false vision of whatever.
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I swear… the Alliance completely confuses me at this point.
Death Knights are accepted into the Alliance as they are part of the Ebon Hold
Illidari are accepted into the Alliance as they fought against the legion
Dark Rangers are accepted back into the Alliance as it wasn’t their fault
Man’ari Eredar are welcomed back into the Alliance as the legion is destroyed and they are lonely I guess, what could go wrong?
Blood Elves aren’t allowed into the Alliance because their abuse of fel magic in the past
The Undead Forsaken from former Human Lordaeron citizens aren’t allowed into the Alliance because they aren’t as sexy as the Dark Rangers and aren’t nice to look at
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I don’t know where did u got that.
DKs are feared as they should be as far as I know.
Illidari same, still outlaws
No idea about Dark Rangers but I’m sure they are treated same as undead.
Literally just wait for the questline to be up, everyone imidiately goes “Demons are fine now”. While the chance is strong, I do have reasons to believe they will be redeemed, not demonic.
Therefore the last 2 are fine the way how it is. At least that’s how I see it and RP.
[citation needed] (being playable isn’t enough, particularly as it’s either non-sensical Void Elf Dark Rangers or Night Elf ones who are still completely absent on the NPC front, as opposed to every other addition to the game)
They also murdered Night Elves and the Dwarf (insurgent spy)
diplomat and have repeatedly gone through diplomatic blunders with the Alliance since
The Alliance was staunchly against their presence and most sane members still are, given the fact they use human experiments and are into every sin a living human could commit.
And this is still the grey area and I can’t see any good outcome for it.
Scenario A: If the Eredar do get redeemed and cleansed then all the people on this forum who are infatuated with the idea they can play their fetish bait demon characters will be horribly disappointed as they’ll just be demoted to Draenei with a red paintjob.
Scenario B: If they don’t go through a redemption arc and are left the way they are now we are in for some truly abysmal storytelling. Not only do they remain demons (and thus either need to be actually summoned and bound on Azeroth and run the constant risk of being enslaved or banished by warlocks) but their core identity of being genocidal space faring commanders of the Burning Legion is in direct opposition to everything the Alliance and Horde stand for.
I have very little doubt we are getting Scenario A as it’s the less damaging alternative to the setting, but it will also be effectively ignored by most of the squeecore Eredar posters we see present or misinterpreted so they can enact their chaotic evil fanfics in Stormwind or Duskwood.
Personally I’m not planning anything until the circumstances of their reappearance are disclosed.
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Also the fact that
You know
They’re part of the Horde and don’t exactly LIKE the Alliance after they were treated like 
thanks to Garithos & co.
‘They aren’t as sexy as the Dark Rangers’
What
No
When they TRIED to get back into the Alliance, their envoys got cut down because they were seen as abominations, an affront to the Light iirc.
But they haven’t, as some have pointed out, the customisation being made available for Velf and Nelf does not mean DR’s are allowed in the Alliance.
And I think this is what we will get. I already summed up my reasons. Blizzard is master at dissapointing people but I think this option is more safe. I mean, the fetishist (tbh I partially belong… starts reading Bible) will literally miss only green fire on the character. My DK have someone else’s eye in RP, I don’t need a customisation for that, my paladin have a tatoo and piercing, don’t need a customisation for that. I think redeeming them is the best compromise.
Also to be also critical and not just on hopium, I will add Scenario C: They are demons but Blizzard is lazy to add green fire → everyone pissed.
Don’t think I will do much more than unlock the skin
there is no story arc I want to explore with a Man’ari I haven’t already done with my worgen.
Maybe if the questline offers a good reason or new storybeat I haven’t considered.
but I am kind of tired of the “trying to find your place in this new world trope”
that demon hunters, lightforged, void elves, dracthyr, mag’har, pandaren and death knights all share in one way or another.
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They almost switched sides in MoP, before Jaina and high elves had a gamer moment and pushed them back into the Horde (for which she got a scolding from Varian, because the guy was on the verge of getting an entire kingdom away from the Horde and into the Alliance, and she ruined it).
But, the main reason why there is disconnect between Alliance in ye olde days and now is that somewhere, as WoW progressed, Alliance changed from being the imperialist faction that viewed itself as paragons of virtue into actual paragons of virtue. Basically, they got Anduinized.
And it may not even be Blizzard´s fault, every time Alliance acts like warmongers (Varian in Wrath) or does something questionable (vulpera purge squads my beloved), the Alliance playerbase goes ballistic, because how could the Grand Alliance ever do something bad? If the playerbase wants them to do X instead of Y, at one point they might just stop caring and start doing X.
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Both the Horde and Alliance playerbase have this strange tendency of freaking out when their faction is doing something less than lawful good. Remember the fan art from the burning of Teldrassil that some content enjoyers linked here a month or two ago.
I guess the Alliance players would be more vocal or hysterical about it, but to me both factions are plagued by the same crowd. I felt quite alone (as an Alliance player) when I was very much hoping that we’d get the Undercity besieged and ravaged before the tree burning, making the Alliance the actual instigators.
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For what it’s worth we’re on the same team in that regard. The Alliance is way overdue their moment in the hot chair by now.
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