"Relax it's just prepatch"

Sorry i fail to see how your logic is right. So as you say that company needs a reason to balance a game? You really believe that’s right? Than your standards are set on pretty low.

I will hold you on that and you better be right when pvp season starts.

Yes. Some may be, sure. But if it was this easy to base someone off of 1 oppinion, we would have shrinks/psychologists everywhere.

No, i can still see the bigger picture and just ignore some of the problems. Without it making me narrow, it just means i dont feel its significantly important enough. Thats obviously a personal oppinion, that some problems arent as big as others.

I, for one, couldnt care less about prepatch balance. Simply beacause its 2 months (give or take) every 2 years, where NOTHING happens. It’s basicly a period where you can test new talents, level alts, make macro’s, maybe do some prepatch events (if those still exists).
I would much rather have blizzard( or activision, wichever name you prefer) spend time on endgame content.

Who wants them to waste time on prepatch period when there are much bigger flaws at endgame?

You don’t have to, there won’t be any azerite traits/Drest oneshots in SL

Start by making some reasonable assumptions.

Let’s say a developer works 40 hours a week.

Where do you want those 40 hours to be focused?

The developer obviously can’t do everything in the time he has available.
Blizzard as a whole can’t do everything they want in the time they have available. That much is evident when they have had to delay the release of Shadowlands.

So it’s a question of priority.

Do you want Blizzard to focus 100% on the Beta and make Shadowlands as great as it can be?

Or do you want Blizzard to focus 75% on the Beta and make Shadowlands decent, and then focus 25% on pre-patch and have a better transition period?

The argument put forth by some is that pre-patch lasts 2 months and it’s gone. That’s so short a period of time that it isn’t worth the development focus.
On the other hand, then you’re going to spend the next 2 years in Shadowlands, so there’s a lot more reason to encourage Blizzard to focus 100% on the Beta in order to make Shadowlands as good as it can be.

That is the logic.

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So you’re not narrow about everything else in life then and you’re just selective? Well I’m happy for you, I just thought I should ask, thanks for replying.

Thus everyone that actually cares is certainly wrong because they differ from your views, and we all know that in 2020 anyone whose views differ from our own must be idiots or taken less seriously right?

The people that do care about having a good product at any point in time and don’t pact with immature excuses for being incompetent, believe it or not they exist.

I’m out now, these forums are exhausting, people have no sympathy for anything other than their own views, everything turns into moot discussions and no one can agree on anything. Good evening.

Let’s say there isn’t only one developer working for Blizzard.

And let’s say Blizzard is multimilion dollar companie that can afford hiring more developers.

I guess they can only focus on selective development, obviously our subscription fees cannot be channeled to anything other than what some select people deem important.

Regardless, the point is the same.

Blizzard’s to-do list is obviously longer than they can keep up with. There’s always a demand for more content, more balance, more updates.

So it becomes a question of priority.

Which of all these tasks should you work on first? Which should you work on last? And which shouldn’t you work on at all?

Employing more people could help you know.

They are doing the exact opposite and then wonder why they can’t keep up. /4head

the effort needs to be worth the benefit. The effort to balance 36 specs in arena, m+ and raids for a NON competetive period of 1 or 2 months is not worth the benefit. Thats it. Simple math. If you cant understand that i really dont know.

And i hope every single of them is working on making Shadowlands better and not prepatch non season pvp balance.

You could argue that blizzard should hire way more developers in the first place but that is a complete different topic and we dont know the strucuture at blizzards. It might look easier from the outside.

Vash how can u keep up with the pvp god himself

That would not change the reality. The product would grow with the company, just as WoW has done over the years. And the demand would follow, as it has also done.

So… hire more developers then? Do they really not have revenue for that?

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That doesn’t make sense. The demand doesn’t grow proportionally to the amount of staff they have hired. This is a game, it doesn’t work that way.

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You seem to like taking things out of context. I am stating my oppinion about the prepatch, how is that me saying “im right, you’re wrong”?

If you have a different oppinion, great, thats basicly how society should work. Hearing both sides of a arguement is always a good thing.
Imagine how dull it would be for everyone to have the same oppinion?

But i do, however, feel that you are dumb if you take prepatch seriously. Out of all the things wrong atm, prepatch was on the top of your list. Then YOU are the narrow one.

If you have nothing else in life, besides wow, that prepatch makes life unbearable, then i feel sorry for you. And wish for a brighter future for you.

Thats impossible, there will always be someone who isnt content about the game. Whats a perfect game for some, will not be for others.

That obviously goes both ways. You dont show sympathy for other peoples oppinions either, someone dont share the same view as you and you imply that they are narrow about everything in life? Practice what you preach.

But if the logic is that pre-patch is a short and temporary state of the game that is redundant and irrelevant in the broader scope, then it doesn’t matter how many employees Blizzard have at their disposal. You would still make the argument that all of them should be 100% focused on the Beta.

Blizzard has 300 developers? Put them all to work on Beta.
Blizzard hires 50 developers more? Put them all to work on Beta.
Assign 1 developer to pre-patch? No, why? It’s a waste of development resources. That developer is better off working on the Beta like everyone else.

The pre-patch is not on top of my list. The pre-patch is on my list. And everything on my list should be addressed, not only a few select topics. It’s called having standards and it’s what I pay my sub for. Now I’m done arguing with you, take your personal remarks elsewhere if you don’t want to stay on topic.

Having a list is of problems you want taken care of, is fine. But expecting them all to be taken equally serious, is just beeing naive. Who decides who’s problem are more important? Are your problems more important than the guy next door?

Even you, in your real life, are selective in what parts of your “irl-list” is done first. It’s part of what its like beeing an adult.

Obviously, as it should be, prepatch gets knocked FAR down the list, beacause there are bigger and more time-demanding issues at hand.
Prepatch lasts 2 months, and nobody has anything to gain from the imbalance at this point. If there was an active season, this would be completely different.

I would be MUCH more worried about what we see from the beta arena clips, than the current 1-shot stuff at prepatch 50. It’s basicly the same as complaining about twink bg.

You talked about the “bigger picture”, wich part is the most important one. The 2 year expansion, or the 2 month prepatch? Tough call.

No matter how much you try to defend them, the entity providing the service is at fault by not delivering a polished product, not me for having expectations to get the service I am paying for. Whether you care or not about that it’s a different thing. When I mentioned bigger picture I meant having a complete product instead of a half working one. We should advocate for the complete one, not the half baked one. Good evening.

Again who came with that logic? Was that you? Who decided that pre-patch is irrelevant state of a game which can be not touched just because there is no arena season. Go and find for me where a word pre-patch means “broken state of a game which isn’t balanced because game devs have other priorities”. Clearly you are not making reasonable assumptions when it comes to your rights as costumer. I don’t care at all what they are working atm, what priorities they have, I am not gonna make excuses for them either like you do, when I pay for a product I demand it to be somewhat acceptable. And what I get right now is not. I don’t care if its pre-patch, multibillion dollar company should set the priorities and answer for the product quality they have. If they don’t have enough developers they can state it somewhere and I will recommend them you.
Its first pre-patch in my retail experience and maybe they should inform me somewhere that game won’t have any reasonable balance so i might not sub for that time.