Remember when Brian Birmingham said chaining drums was ridiculous

[Silphaeahs-draenor]

Burning Crusade Classic Developer Interview - John Hight & Brian Birmingham | BlizzConline 2021

Brian Birmingham: "We want to adjust them in some way so it doesn’t feel like everybody who wants to [optimise] their output has to go leatherworking. That feels bad, when it basically gets down to it’s [like] a part wide buff, it lasts for enough time, with a cooldown of enough time, with no [like] shared cooldown or debuff, that you could have, it thinks it’s four or even all five members of you party doing a rotation of drums so that everybody has to have leather working to do that. It’s like okay that’s ridiculous. So we’re going to do some kind of minor adjustment so it doesn’t feel like it’s compulsory for literally everyone to do it.

How have we gone from that to this …

@Kaivax

Leatherworking was an unattractive profession at the time, so the drums were improved in patch 2.3. That led to the fond memories we all have of drum rotations as one of the added layers of teamwork in later Burning Crusade encounters.

Have you guys seen the Drums of Battle change?

Leatherworking drums have been a hot topic since we first started working on Burning Crusade, since they would make Leatherworking feel mandatory. In the first few patches of original Burning Crusade, the drums had a cast time and smaller radius, which limited their effective use. Leatherworking was an unattractive profession at the time, so the drums were improved in patch 2.3. That led to the fond memories we all have of drum rotations as one of the added layers of teamwork in later Burning C…

@Kaivax

We’ve followed this discussion carefully, and we have a couple of thoughts that could stand to be clarified.

Looking Back

Drums of Battle were a meaningful part of the raiding experience in 2008. Sunwell Plateau was tuned with the improved Drums in place, and guilds tested the 2.4 PTR using them, and then all of the first Kil’jaeden kills in 2008 used them. Changes to how Drums work in this later phase of Burning Crusade Classic would make Sunwell Plateau harder or easier than it was in 2008. That would compel us to do raid tuning, which goes against our goal of establishing as much authenticity as possible. Yes, we’re planning on a progressive tuning model for the raids, but we want that to approximate how the original Burning Crusade played out.

The importance of professions in The Burning Crusade is part of the fabric of The Burning Crusade. While today the focus is on Leatherworking, we know that many casters will feel the need to pursue Tailoring, and PvP-focused warriors will feel that Blacksmithing is vital, and so forth. The changes made in the original Patch 2.3 were aimed specifically at bolstering the value of Leatherworking relative to those other professions.

Looking Ahead

In The Burning Crusade Classic, we want to provide an authentic experience. This means that while we are making some targeted changes where we think they’re appropriate to preserve the spirit and intent of The Burning Crusade’s original game design, we haven’t been planning to cause the value of Leatherworking to go way down over the course of the expansion.

The separation of Drums into two eras of items gives us a basis on which we can make tweaks as we navigate toward release. Players in 2007 felt that the early versions of the Drums were not really worth using. They had a cast time and a very small radius. Our intent in restoring that older version of the Drums for the first three phases of Burning Crusade Classic content is to approximate the evolution of professions through the early patches of original Burning Crusade.

Even though we’re only three days into the beta test, we’re looking forward to raid testing and endgame testing where we try out this pre-2.3 version of Drums. If they end up still feeling mandatory in a way that makes the early phases play out very differently than the original game, we’ll re-evaluate our design.

We’re also tweaking the Sunwell version. For example, the early design of the Drums in the beta today doesn’t include a change that we’ve put in to remove the additional resource costs on the Greater Drums. I think you’ll see that in next week’s new build of the beta.

We’re open to making further alterations, especially where a tweak still isn’t bringing the game to the authentic feel we’re going for. As always, we appreciate your constructive feedback on this issue and everything else.

I couldn’t find a better way to sum up my reactions, so i’m just going to reiterate the same clip

[Blizzcon 2018 Highlights] Diablo Immortal Q&A - Is this an out of season april fools joke?

[Zalanji-mirage-raceway]

The most weird part of it all is that they don’t even acknowledge the 180-degree turn between Brian’s words and Kaivax’s post, despite it being as clear as possible. I’ve often had reservations about Blizzard’s communications, but this tops just about everything I’ve seen in the past.

[Khørus-venoxis]

@Zalanji-mirage-raceway

The most weird part of it all is that they don’t even acknowledge the 180-degree turn

wait… that reminds me of something… what was it ? AHH yes " You think you do but you dont"

But on a second note the actually acknowledge it at the Blizzcon.