Remove m+, heroic/mythic raids and the lfg tool for random raids/dungeons

Play the game casually - no eletism
No toxic lfg raids

Keep the game simpel -
Normal-heroic dungeons
Normal raids

Get yourself into community/guilds and learn to know people rather than jumping into random crap that is toxic for the game/gameplay

Build big world events with cool rewards that guilds can fight for - imagine that - guilds vs guilds vs guilds
Actually bringing guildies together

Servers that get a big update so people dont get a giant lag spike when more than 50+ is in the same area ( imagine 1000 people fighting/doing content)

Bring wow to a state that it once was - People depending on eachother - thats what builds up a community

Sick of the eletism that most people cant even do. Lets bring in most of the player base and make content that all can just login and enjoy

Id rather have a social game mmo experience than a spreadsheet eletism experience

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i could only agree when raid with mythic mode is removed

and Mythic + mode could agree to be removed too

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TLDR, ruin the game for almost the half of the game population.

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I see no problem but HC dungeons sould be m+15-20 diff
and normal dungeons should be 2-14 diff
Normal raids all should be mythic diff
OK?

You can act as if the modes you do not exist if you do not wish to play them , that is acceprables. Simply output that they do not exist you will be happier and your friend come with you, anything it is possible in World of War Craft you can sill make the friend to level 30, all of you together in molten core, even in regular or classic. how do you know if you are in regular or classic?

Say the highest in the game now is normal dungeon if you want to do that. Nothing more exists. So what if there is better gear somewhere? Now there is not, you are normal dungeon and that is perfectly fine, you will get great gear for the normal dungeons in the normal dungeons. Not everybody must do the challenge modes.

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How about no?

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You have the option to play however you want, instead you want to ruin everyone else.

Doesn’t seem very “social” to me.

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There are players better than others.The problem is when they act superior over others.It is more a psychological issue “I am better than you”.

Probably impossible.

I am in several.Most players seem to not be interested to get to know anyone.They do their weekly routine for the Vault/Raids and that’s the most of it.

Looks like things will not change.

Why? You can play the game as casual as you want.

Let us who enjoy harder content do ours.

Then do your own thing instead of demanding the game to be deleted for alot of other people.

Your demands would kill the game over night lmfao :rofl::rofl:

Game doesnt have enough content to only offer this and the vast majority will get bored within 3 weeks of expansion launching

P.s there was still elitism in every expansion before both these features.

Why do people insist on ruining the game for everyone vs just joining casual and friendly guilds/communities that dont care about your raid performance as long as your nice person and are cool to be around. No matter what the game pugs can/are toxic since its the nature of random people who you have no attachment towards/ no negative effects if you be a animal towards

I’m playing Classic atm and I can tell you that the toxicity is there too, where these things do not exist.

It’s people, not the systems.

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ill just respond with the same thing that gets said every time something gets suggested to make classic better

“gO bAcK tO retail cLaSsIc”

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WTF do you take stuff out of context and quoto you opnion and mine on that? i also added that they schould focus more on bringing people to gether for world content aka. Guilds actually playing together in world content bringing the world back into team gameplay.

Except you dont reliese, the part of the playerbase ur deleting Dont care about Open world Content.

theres no need to delete content just because u dont want to do it, Hint here: Dont do it. I play this game over MMORPG Options because it has a great dungeoneering experience with M+.

No open world Enviroments going to replace that for me, because i play WoW for a loot cycle.

ur mass creating a Raid loggers dream I.E log on twice a week to raid and dont log on inbetween, and no Silly open world events going to change that mentality.

its been tried. GW2 do exactly this.

Open world contents with massive map wide events, with no loot treadmill, u can craft the best gear in the game no problem and Raiding is nothing more then for Enjoyment.

We dont need to be Guild Wars 3.

M+ isnt Elitist either, no more elitist then Heroic raids were back in WoTLK. the issue is, PuGs themselves are elitist, ur getting involved in a Selfish enviroment where everyone is out for themselves and ur expecting a friendly enviroment.

ur mixing the players problem and contents problem up and reaching a complete fallacy,

Join a guild, a Community or make friends, any of these options will make M+ a Non-elitist place realistically, you cant fix PuG player mentality via deleting content.

If u think any of todays content is Elitist, i beg u to go do PvP, u will experience what TRUE toxic and Elitist nature is. because thats all thats going to happen.

u will shift the gear treadmill to PvP, and ur going to have a Dead PvE side of the game for raidloggers, Nobodies going to fly around in happy harmony open world killing silly little monsters for a Day. Not even classic had this.

As u saw when PvP dropped into Classic, Not many rly gave a damn for its PvE nature past that outside of raid logging.

nah, remove everything you like im sick of other ppl getting what they want

excuse me?

i keep crying to beg Vrykul and Ogres as playable race for over 10 years, now i want to cry with my wife and friends just because i keep begging these for so long that i am impatient, and i feel bad with the others who beg Worgen and Gnome DH and Tauren Warlock and etc.

i am going to cry again if they won´t announce Vrykul and Ogres and a cat race Saberon and snake race Sethrak, a bird race Arakkoa and Walrus Tuskarr in 11.0

I was just having a laugh at OP, I also want ogres and vrykul, idk bout those other races :stuck_out_tongue:

whats so fun? I dont get your comment

that’s ok I don’t get yours either