Why isn’t it a thing?
In every single online game with any kind of global justice system this is the first and main reason for reports.
How does it make any bit of sense to have an option to report somebody for offensive language or spam, but not be able to report them for bad behaviour?
It is absolutely baffling to me.
Somebody invites me to dungeon group. I pass on other possible run. I use hearthstone. I fly all the way to the dungeon. I wait for the afker there to come back. We summ the rest. The moment last summ is send I’m getting kicked out of the group and they invite their friend. I whisp them that they act like total dicks.
They can report me.
I can’t report them.
This is just one hypothetical scenario but stuff like that happens all the times. Some people are absolute arseholes, ruin the fun for others, make them waste their time and efford, intentionally troll them and essentialy make them quit the game and not only aren’t they beeing punished, there ISN’T EVEN AN OPTION to report them, while a person who gets (rightfully so) mad at such specimen and responds something rude in anger actually might get muted or banned. I’m not saying that every report should end in a ban (you wouldn’t even have to read most of them) but if somebody collects a certain amount it would’ve been a good enough reason to look into it.
Besides, mere possibility of getting suspended for acting like a dick would, at the very least, stop some people from doing it.
The whole idea of chat reports is to make the game less toxic and it instead allows poeple to ACT toxic and the victims can’t even articulate their anger. Well congratulations, Blizzard, you played yourself.
So if I decide that I feel like trolling someone and randomly pick you, ask my guild to report you for the following 3 days and you got a 7 days ban, that is a good system?
So far every similar attempt was shot down, or simply not enforced for rather good reasons.
You are just salty.
I would suggest instead you leave such groups when you come across them reacting is what they want they crave the drama and upset they cause a long time ago I made a mental rule that if I come into contact with such people I leave even if it means a half hour deserter de buff.
I am not here to put up with the crap you have mentioned because this is a game it’s supposed to be fun and enjoyable. If you are with people who ruin it for you just leave.
Such a report method would be open for abuse and not a good thing to implement and then there is the issue of staffing and and investigating each report then seeing if anything serious has actually been done. Sure the game has toxic people all on line games do but to put that thing into the game is a huge drain on resources better used elsewhere.
I do not condone this kind of behaviour but some realism is needed about how to respond in a personal sense and then move on.
I’d rather see a system that rewards good sportsmanship. What if at the end of a dungeon/raid/etc you can vote the MVP of the group who gets a bonus roll. It would encourage good behaviour in premade/random groups because people don’t wanna miss out on their chance to get a bonus roll and it would make it easier for guilds to gear up certain players if they all agree to vote for that one person.
Or, make it so that the number of votes you got, determines the value of your reward.
Very cool story.
I’ve never seen that behaviour (not saying it doesnt happen) but if theres ever such an option is will be a joke. People take offense at anything these days and would just spam report the dumbest stuff.
To the OP the issue with your proposal is the idea of good sportsmanlike conduct varies from person to person, from country to country. So it will be hard to police this.
People can kick people from their groups for any reason, this is why you should either join communities or groups on discord that are open to all types of people to do pugs or you should do dungeons and raids with just your guild or people you know.
wide open to abuse and, as you rightly say, a lot of people ingame are not pleasant. Innocents would suffer, and all youd be left with are the unpleasant which would end the game. Its the polite that keep the game going, without em the game would die.
Believe it or not but in the scenario you give OP, no rules have been broken and any system as you suggest can be abused.
I suggested a traitor system for wpvp, but maybe it can be extended to all forms of injustice.
The amount of unsportsman players i have met is around 5 or 6 and i have been playing for a long time. There would be no reason for such a system , to much abuse potentiel. And it is pretty rare to find such people.
I can’t understand why it isn’t a thing either to me it just speaks of Blizzard’s lack of will to promote a better community.
And to all the people complaining of potential abuse I have two things to say. First it seems to work just fine in other games. Second, potential abuse can be easily dealt with by using human moderators.
I can’t think why.
I don’t think a system that is open to abuse is a good one to put into the game.
Could be abuseable AF. When the option to chat report, a whole lot of people reported asmongold, even though he said nothing wrong, and he got chat banned immediately.
If there was a way to get around this abuse i would like to have a system like this, depending on what the punishment is.
But i have seen some real douche moves like this.
I have a friend, who knew that good players queue for groups that are close to full and bad players queue for groups with few people, and are willing to work hard to stay in the group.
He would essentially invite everyone to start with and ask them to move and summon, then when he had around 18 people he would start kicking a low geared player every time he got in a good player, and not only that he would have the low geared players summon the new players before kicking them.
I think it was totally wrong, but i gotta admit, it worked, but point is, i think this kind of behaviour should be reportable at least.
I also had an experience that really made my blood boil. It was early in BoD and i was pugging mythic first boss (before cross realm mythic) and it was hard finding groups.
I got into a group early on with like 5 people. I stayed for 30 minutes waiting for it to fill and helped summon, then as soon as i enter the raid i DC. I am away for less than 30 seconds, and when i get back i am kicked. I whisper leader, who has not found anyone new player yet and he is not at all apologetic about it.
I flip my sh*t, like i was so mad and i wished that i could report this dude for this disgusting behaviour, but yea.
I also had one where i was not even mad, it was just a funny prank, but i could easily imagine it rubbing someone the wrong way.
It was in legion and i was looking to do weekly 15. I was 3500 RIO at the time so getting in groups on an alt is usually easy, but the character was pretty low geared (around 390 by today’s standard), so it took some time before i got in a group.
I got instantly summoned and i though that was pretty quick, but i did not see where the summon lead. Next thing i know i am loading into stranglethorn vale, i spawn in the arena, but am already dead before i was fully loaded, and i am kicked from the group.
I couldn’t help but just laugh.
In general this would be a good idea, only downside is when you get into a pug where 3 people are from one group, the other two, in most situations, wont be able to get that reward because they will vote for one of their own 9 out of 10 times
That sucks thou when those things happen but that is the pug community for you.I can’t fadom what makes people act like douchebags like that so I pity them also so groups let’s just say most groups nowadays have a competitive mindset they have no time for fun so they kick you out cause of efficiency it’s stupid to say the least you don’t need to treat this game like a job that’s what the problem with you people you forgot what fun actually is so you have to act like you are method guild to be able to play and you don’t tbh.
I’ve been the offender in the situation you’ve mentioned, a lot.
I know it’s a douche thing, but you know sometimes friends come online suddenly and it’s either disband and then invite eachother again or just remove the stranger.
I do however note the player that a friend came online and that I/We would like to play with them.
You can’t really restrict people in this situation, especially if the run hasn’t even started.
It might just happened that as you summoned their friend came online, or they were afk or ( Talking in discord, phone or whatever ) then came back saw you are already there, clicked summon then removed you.
I have also been in similar situations and I really never minded it if people removed me or asked me to leave because a friend of theirs want in.
It’s also not unsportsmanlike conduct, people often tend to forget this is a game for fun not a sport, not a job, and not a real life event, it’s a game! and yes people will prioritize playing with friends over strangers.
You don’t need to be angry over a game and you certainly don’t need to be rude towards people especially if they weren’t rude to you.
I see you all over your post calling them douches, arseholes, specimens, trolls, dicks etc, don’t you think you are the one being toxic by getting so worked up over a petty thing? after all the origin of toxicity in gaming is people getting worked up from petty things.
It may be that if there existed a report option for rude people, people might feel forced to behave in fear of getting muted or banned, rather than behaving out of pure goodness.
The ingame infastructure today’s WoW is built on is the primary reason as to why some people behave poorly. And the worst of them all is any form of cross-realm. Because of it everyone are scattered across numerous servers practically being anonymous, as noone will know who they are or remember them. If cross-realm didn’t exist people would know who most were on a server and there would be a community, very much how WoW used to be in vanilla, TBC and early WotLK.