I don’t want them to remove gold. Players who want blizzard to remove gold are the once that don’t have any. And they fail to understand that it’s them who will profit the most by NOT removing the gold.
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So here’s the thing.
You can’t say WE WANT TBC but then totally destroy the economy that is already present because then you just have a bunch of 60s running around in naxx gear with zero gold which is just nonsense to even ask for.
Yes GDKP is a thing and pretty much always has been and even if every player starts TBC with zero gold it’s not going to remove GDKP by any means all it will do is bring down the prices for a little bit until players get their hands on more and more gold.
To put a cap on Gold is quite possibly the most idiotic thing I have read because the whole point of MMO’s is to able to get insanely rich by your own hard work but if your capped at say 5k gold then all that will happen is that people will just create more bank alts purely for holding gold cap so again it will solve absolutely nothing.
The only way you will be happy is if Blizzard Banned GDKP and okay I dont like GDKP so I just don’t join pug raids and the playerbase understand that and if you think for one second Blizzard will die on the GDKP hill then your sorely mistaken.
You might aswell just quit and just play a TBC private server that has fresh servers added every few months because your not gonna enjoy TBC when it comes out here.
Also just wanna say I do not have a large amount of gold infact I dont even have an epic mount haha so this isn’t me just defending my vast hoards of gold as I have like 350g maybe across all my characters.
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See here is THE problem - it’s not earned by hard work, its farmed 24/7 by BRD and Strat bots, unless you believe that Gressil guy who said he farmed 180k by doing DM:E jumps :))
EDIT: Okay, I don’t want to put them all together because I know you can get huge amounts of gold without cheating. But we can all agree that some people just buy gold illegally or have their own bots and that should be removed. Otherwise, the TBC market will be bad. 20k cap is more than enough and that’s still unimaginable amount for 90% players.
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Ok so lets say for example we have 100 players and 2 players botted their items and gold. Why should the other 98 players get punished?
Your biggest flaw with your arguement is that you think its perfectly acceptable to punish legitimate players aslong as it hurts the botting/cheating ones.
The TBC market will be bad regardless because even back during TBC it wasn’t unheard of for legitimate players to have over 100k+ gold and sure during TBC there was gold buying/selling but putting a cap won’t stop that.
All a gold cap will do is force players to make alts to hold gold therefore making the process the exact same but simply slower.
No one in their right minds would want bots/gold buying/selling to be allowed but the way Blizzard tackled the bots/illegal selling/buying was to implement WoW tokens into the game which totally screwed the economy far worse than what the gold buying ever did.
You have to look at all of the facts/data and quite frankly the history of what WoW became. The biggest issue was the fact that grey/white/green items were worth 2-15g each so if you really truely want to keep gold low then you’d have to make trash/vendor items basically worthless which again only slows down the process.
Its gonna happen whether we want it to or not. Blizzard aren’t gonna have moderators or admins watching every single server 24/7 to stop the bots so that will continue.
You just have to quite frankly get a grip and understand the reality of what is going to happen.
Yes, and I think we can all agree that those people should all be punished. But punishing everyone to get the criminals punished is literally the opposite of justice.
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100% agree on fresh TBC.
Leave classic as it is forever. no one complains, classic lovers stay there if they want.
TBC lovers start at level 58 and move on into TBC have fun!
There will be bots and gold sellers there… but well… it is what it is.
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I dont think people will agree to TBC fresh.
Granted I would love to start fresh its just think of the naxx raiders with a ton of gold and supplies all bought and ready for TBC they are gonna oppose it extremely hard.
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people have nothing to say. Blizzard decides what happens and what they release.
You realize classic came about because of the people right?
They literally only looked into making WoW classic after the massive outcry of fans who were annoyed at their dismissive comments during a Blizzcon.
So your idea that people have no say are really quite misunderstood.
yea and blizz wanted to make some more money. both are correct.
reset? no
put a cap, sure, i think 10k/character is reasonable, most legit players can get that much, those with legit farming can have up to 100k on a server.
anyone with more then 100k, well, sorry, you’re a tiny tiny minority and i for one can live with discomfort for the few in order to combat the botters and gold buyers.
Epic flying is 5k in TBC and skills cost gold/items cost gold/mounts cost gold etc etc Pretty soon your already close to that 10k cap.
Look I understand that 10k cap sounds like an easy solution but it stops nothing.
Bots will bot and just create 10 level 1 accounts to hold the 10k they botted so there’s 100k all its going to do is slow down the process.
Instead of sticking so strongly to this idea of a gold cap there needs to be a more solid/long term plan that can be put in place other than just slowing the curve of gold coming into the game.
How many times does it have to be said. Gold reset or caps only empower bots! Demand for their services will skyrocket! There will be a queue at their sites to buy 5k gold for that epic flying! They will make as much money in the first weeks of goldless TBC as they did in entire length of classic.
Can you (not you personally, but gold reset advocates) not see further then immediate knee-jerk of “take their gold zug zug”.
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Sounds like you’re poor and never took the effort to actually get some gold.
Yes the botting is a problem, but unless blizzard finally permabans gold sellers AND buyers nothing will ever change.
Resetting gold will only hurt the casual players, we who play this game more seriously and are more knowledgable will always find a fast way to accumulate thousands of gold.
Yeah but legit players get more gold because bots bring it to the economy…
I feel like the whole economy is trashed because of the bots.
You can say it 1mil times more but that doesn’t make it true.
The only difference will be in the Gold value.
Now you farm more gold and sell it cheap and with reset will be less gold for more $. Same thing in the end, won’t you agree?
Don’t you consider that without a cap/reset gold sellers will flood the market with gold when TBC starts? It will be just the same as now. And maybe you are not aware that now the gold is in huge demand. Also in TBC you mentioned the mount of 5k, believe me that will be nothing compared to 10k greens at the AH.
I think a cap will be the better way, we already have it for transfers now and I think that’s what we will have when TBC will come out.
Now the Gold limit is arguable here.
I am really trying my wrap my head around this but I just cant. So it will be the same. Gold buyers will still buy gold, prices will still inflate. The only difference with cap/reset is that ALL non-cheating players lose all their gold so that a few gold-less players can enjoy lower AH prices for the first few weeks of the expansion? Is that seriously it? The selfishness of the resetters leaves me speechless.
So? Going with your exaggeration, let’s say greens cost 10k gold. Awesome, you can sell all the greens that drop for you for 10k and buy epic flying right away. Or do you want people to not get it right away? Why? So you personally can be among the first to get it? I don’t understand. Honestly I don’t… This isn’t 15 years ago, people wont take a month or three to get epic flying, no matter how much you try to hamsteing them.
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Fine, I’ll pay for 7acc for 1 month and keep all my gold, what are you going to do about that?
Well, Blizz is more than welcome to do something about the bots.
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I see you are rage blinded here.
I just said that anyway Blizzard will implement TBC the gold/bot/rmt will be the same. I don’t advocate for reset just for some kind of limit. Calm down.
And chill out with assumption that “I want this or that and personally”. I get you are mad but please.