They’re one of only two classes with BL (drums were nerfed so now having a mage/shaman is mandatory), they now have a 5min battle rez through talents (because yeah their BL wasn’t enough why not just give them the best utility in the game for M+ as well?) and to top things off, I hear they have the best healing throughput of all healers (this I admit is hearsay because I don’t play a resto shaman nor have I ever grouped with one, being a healer myself).
So really guys this isn’t a case of “stop crying, only the super min/maxers will go for Rshaman”, no that’s BS. Anyone with half a brain can understand the HUGE advantage of having a healing class that has BOTH BL AND COMBAT REZ AND BEST HEALING IN GAME.
Seriously what’s going on at Blizzard that they allow this kind of nonsense to exist???
I’m really tempted to give up M+ at this point. This shaman OPness is disgusting tbh…
You forgot a 12s cd ranged interrupt (huge), a 60s cd (40s with talent) ranged 4s aoe stun, a tank pet on demand (earth elemental), cast while moving, and link.
Oh and antifear totem
I guess I still have my single target stun that has more CD and that I have to talent for it to be a stun rather then a disorient. And a fear I can’t use much in m+ because it breaks on damage and if it doesn’t can pull extra packs.
For clarity’s sake Resto Shaman’s battle res totem does not count to the battle Res cap. In exchange for it you have to predict if someone will die and drop it down BEFORE they do, otherwise you will not res them. It is a talent shamans had since Legion, and there is a good reason why it was only really picked in raids to cheese specific oneshot mechanics.
Also Hunters have BL as well.
In BFA we had the same discussion going: Why pick anything else than Druid or Paladin for M+? Shamans had one of the lowest heal output out of all healers and their single target was pretty mediocre in a dungeon content where tanks received heavy beating.
I do not see a problem of letting shamans be on top for once. Paladins and Druids had their time to shine for two expansions now.
Did you conveniently forgot to mention that their AoE stun has a two second arm time and they can only cast while moving for 15 seconds every two minutes (1 minute CD if you talent it, but most of the time you will not be able to, not in raids, because in raids the group will expect you to use Wind Rush Totem.) Capacitor only stuns for 3 seconds too, not 4.
Fear totem they had since BFA, and it only really had a single use: If the group mucked up a niche mechanic you could pre-emptively drop it to try and stabilize the group. In high end raids it was outright useless because fear mechanics were swapped over to horror effects, which the totem does nothing against. I have no idea about PvP, but I assume it is pretty useful there. There were two dungeon bosses in the entirety of BFA where tremor totem had an actual use: Rezan and the last boss in King’s Rest.
Shamans are strong right now for M+, but if you want to make an argument about it please provide clarity, not spread misinformation.
They could take away link, cap totem, the interrupt, earth elemental, astral shift and the antifear totem, and shaman would still be OP for m+. That’s how broken it is right now.
We have had that for always so what’s the problem with it now ? can you please explain we have been low tiers for m+ in legion and BFA but you dont mention that do you .
Legion and BFA healer tiers in m+ were all about the damage you could pump on the side as a healer, plus some utility, which is why druid was king.
These days you don’t have many GCDs to do damage if you’re healing higher keys and interrupts/cc are more important then ever.
Shaman was always very good at enemy disruption utility and control, but in BFA it wasn’t about that. The wall you would run into pushing keys was not too much damage taken or lack of interrupts. The wall was the damage your group could push.
And they had all of that since Legion.Every single part of those utilities.So why even post now?I am looking at the Warcraft logs the m+ part no where do i find shaman representation that huge or big.
