with the new epic 1h/2h blades rets get, they get +holydamage, so why is it then that Crusader Strike and Divine Storm do not deal Holy Damage but rather physical damage?
Pretty simple change, CS/DS should deal holy damage instead of physical.
agree kinda, my class is lowest in dps for the 2nd phase in a row
can we get a lil cheeky buff pls?
making something that scales with weapon dmg and attackpower not be affected by armor is a sure way to make it broken. ret already uses a decent amount of holy dmg from seals, exo and judges that way. if you wanna buff ret reduce armor values on bosses. or please for the love of god make martyrdom twistable with command.
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with literally every caster and melee hunters out of all things doing top 3-4 dps rets getting a minor change wont make ret top DPS, rets barely scale and rets are literally rock bottom rn. it is simply a common sense change if rets get epics that increase our holy damage.
Wtf? I ding 40 around 1h befor server resett and I’m always numb 1 in Dps with Bonebiter Axe ( need start grind SthV )
Ret Dmg is insane and I just use pre Gear
Holy Dmg is Exo and your judgements
you don’t need it on Crusader strike or Divine Storm
Crusader already crits for 500+
Divine Storm can hit by 750
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For me the only problem is mana consumption. New rune like “The Art of War” is awesome and bring a huge dps boost, however, our capacities need too much mana and we have to switch with Seal of Wisdom which make us lose dps (or maybe I’m doing something wrong idk).
Btw, did you notice that we are losing our blessing randomly? (And I’m not getting dispelled, sometimes when a mob is attacking me, blessing disappears…). Again, Am I doing something wrong here?
wait till you hit the raid, you will be one of the lowest DPS. ret damage would be good if it was holy to begin with to make proper use of your epic weapon (when you get it)
Cru/Divine will not hit that high due to armor on bosses.
logs do not lie, the only good thing about ret in this tier is OT on trash
its a bad change im sorrry to say. here is a good change. make seals scale in a way off of holy spellpower as well. and make command and martyr twistable. ez fix as well as a fix to the really bad rotation atm where you just wait around for the next simple spell to be off cooldown
why not make both CS/DS holydamage and have Command/Martyr twistable? simple fixes and actual somewhat interesting gameplay design to play TBC ret with 400ms twistings
Nobody runs the rune art of war sadly u lose too much mana both ret and prot are running guarded by the light since gives 5% mana every 3 sec
Rly don’t care for Raid Dps
since I’m lvl 40 never anyone did more Dmg in any Dungeon then my Ret
In PvP Ret is an greate Meele
I’m pretty sure if Rogues get double Fist Wp(Gnome and Bloodmoon) as Hemo they go insane
Same Fury War with gear
I’m happy on my Ret, still if his Dps in Raid is not tier 1
but in Wpvp and Bg’s he will be nice
Do you play versus other lvl 40 players?
Yes, Retrhi has insane damage, but it is in BFD vs lvl 25 players.
At 40 a Boomkin, priest, warlock, warrior, Rogue, Hunter or a mage can crit for over 2k easily. Paladin can crit 750. YAAAAAY!
Current status of Ret Paladin in SoD P2 is pathetic compared to other DPS specs. They should just revamp the talent tree (Season of Discovery, WoW Classic 2.0 so why not?) or add useful runes that are compatible with current trashy Ret tree.
warrior can crit 2k with what? You mock paladins 750 crits, my ms crits max 700 with bonebiter. And I have to build 30 rage first
execute. I have the stv pvp event. A warr with the stv axe crited me for 2k with execute.
So insane i cannot even see us in the ranking anymore:
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2008#sample=7&dataset=90
With a massive lack of mobility and no real offheal since the change from guarded by the light.
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you know execute usable only if you are below 20%? For example, if you have 2500 hp, below 20% is 499 - so for you wouldnt be difference if he crit you for 500 or 120 billions, you would die anyway. And 2k execute crit is probably with 100 rage, which is fully drained after this
there is no axe in stv, and execute damage is fixed, no difference if naked war with a shovel or fully naxx geared - dmg would be same
Mb, it was the stv epic weapon, the new ones.
Also, Paladin has nothing to execute you with nor anything to hit you that hard.
Rets suck both PvE and PvP
PvP is literally ranged/rogue favored by a long shot, we can beat mages/locks, lose to most other classes quite convincingly.
PvE we are literally eating the scraps off anyone that couldnt perform in BFD.
We have holy damage and cant use it at all outside of Exo and Judge, wrath ret has holy damage abilities that we use in our rotation, CS and DS.
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Ret is so good that tanks use it 
aka ret suck
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