So remind the crowd how Shadowfrost Shards are acquired.
Your argument here is literally “every caster gets Ateish from Naxx 40”.
Its a legendary weapon - it’s not designed to be a giveaway - but there is no reason WHY you can’t put the time and effort in within a guild - but it is time and effort.
I never bothered with Ateish because I never foresaw a point I would need it for my gameplay - I would never have had the time
Okay, so why would you give a ret paladin Shadowmourne over a warrior or DK after 3 phases of doing low dps?
This is the exact question I posed to the other guy which you had to butt into btw.
DPS is not - nor ever has been - the sole purpose of many classes within a Raid - Class composition exists because of the utility classes can bring to a Raid.
You are quite right - in the modern understanding of the game many Guilds may well prioritise a class above another - but not all be any means - so you seem to feel entitled rather than accepting that there is no reason why not with the right group of players.
I’m looking forward to the arguments over The Battered Hilt the most - is the best reason Blizz have to never implement RDF
So you don’t have an answer, gotcha.
Who effing cares, it’s an effing 5 man drop that’s solo farmable.
I just gave you a clear and cogent answer that you paraphrased to fit your narrative
Okay then, what unique utility do ret bring?
You are a Paladin - do you not understand your class?
Clearly not if you think we bring something that’s not brought by other classes/specs.
You are a strange one - good luck out there - no wonder you have such a big chip on your shoulder - let me ask you this - if your class is so junk why do 3,000 plus Ret Paladins Raid Log weekly?
This is just you going “no I can’t tell you what unique buffs a ret pala brings” because there aren’t any unique buffs a ret pala brings.
Personally I play it cause it’s fun for me and that’s all that matters to me.
Doesn’t mean I can’t see why people wouldn’t give Shadowmourne to a ret paladin though, cause it’s objective the worst option.
I did my Shadowmourne in OG, I’ve no real desire to do it again so I don’t care for me personally either way, as long as I have fun.
YouTube will give anybody who takes 5 minutes to explain raid composition and buffs - you can split hairs all you like - you are just making sweeping statements - as you know - I don’t care - I just like watching you make a fool of yourself.
Can you make BM hunters feel better too while you’re at it? Could use a hug.
Just use that tool and hover over any of the buffs at the bottom to see that yes, indeed, every single one is covered by another class/spec.
Cause that’s the mantra of WotLK.
You’re wrong on this one too, you can stop stalking me now.
Big Hug mate - I’d lend you Kev - but he’s asleep on my Keyboard and I hate to disturb him.
There never was Class Balance in WotLK - that nonsense all came later - but it is becoming a problem now because there is more knowledge and experience to bring to the old game.
But - the content is doable without all that
Can be - not is - that has always been the case - you are suggesting that every Raid will exclude a ret Paladin because {insert class} can duplicate a buff - that’s like saying I can use honey to sweeten coffee so I’m not using sugar anymore
Not even remotely.
I’m suggesting it’s possible and asking “why give Shadowmourne to a ret when ret has been underperforming the entire expansion?”.
To which you’ve replied “muh unique utility” of which there is none. Nada. Zilch.
Stop trying to lie to me, it’s not gonna work. Crawl back in the hole you came from.
You really do have that big chip and delusion don’t you.
By your reckoning only the very top performing players would ever be in a Raid - it doesn’t work that way - min/max guilds speed running will go with Meta - social guilds progress raiding and having some good times - that’s where you’ll be - and you’ll do that chain if you wish to.
Y’all think that unless you are parse 99+ and competing a Raid in 45 mins you are sub par - you should grow up and watch some old man Raid streams
We used to spend 3 hours in MC chatting rubbish - having the odd Death Roll - and drinking lots of beer.
Ready Check took 15 mins at a time for Bathroom Breaks - you are taking the game far too seriously on the forum - we are not streamers making a living from the game here
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This is all in your head, you’re reading things I haven’t said.
No - not at all - I’m returning your arguments to you and making you look foolish - because you are.
Only a minority of subscribers actually Raid regularly - some never raid at all - some dip in and out - because the Majority of players just enjoy the world and don’t have time to Raid - it does take time.
You are discussing issues associated with a professional level gaming on a hobby forum.
It’s akin to comparing port matching a two stroke engine and polishing them for an extra 3hp on a forum discussing an easter egg run - irrelevant.