play with your guild only then ? and dont do content above your skill level ?
woudl instant solve all your problems
and if you want a carry ? just buy it with gold instead complainging that people refuse to boost you for free
most of boost selling groups are super nice to their customers 
To be honest I never did any mythic keys.
I know thereâs a pressure there and its not for me.
The thing is the key-runners bring that pressure into the rest of the game.
Im doing totally fine. I just miss the social part where you did stuff together.
My best friend ingame I met in duskwood just helping eachother out.
The social part is still here but it requires you do break the ice and make the first move.
And #inbefore - nobody talks to me argument gets thrown out. Well what did they expect? To log in Dorngal and have a queue of people lined up to you like they are waiting for your autograph or something?
I met a lot of people in m+s and raids which I still have on discord âpen-friendsâ even they dont play WoW anymore.
How did it they become my pen friends? I said âHi!â" to them and initiated conversation in a pug m+ run.
Oh sweet Lilith <3
Im doing ok with the game, thats not what im talking about at all.
You totally missed the point dear 
Iâm not in favour of splitting the playerbase up more than it already is.
But, thereâs various âchillâ or âcasualâ communities to be found. Maybe you could join one of those and play with likeminded individuals.
Puny usually has a list of them handy, maybe sheâll drop into this thread at some point.
Yes youre right, its your attitude. But beeing a new player meeting bad attitude is not the same.
I can handle it, I still got friends but⌠New players wont, and I dont meet new friends anymore.
Wow got really chill, no matters of it is Retail, Remix, MoP Classic or Anniversary, you and you alone can set your rules and goals and play accordingly.
Itâs terrible in how many modes they currently have split the playerbase of wow. Ppl often mention classics but they are just the tip of the ice berg Iâm afraid, the severity of how thin the wows playerbase is spread for this game is mind boggling.
I see something the like as remix or plunderstorms it just makes me grimace. Just for PvP alone we have all the variations of random bgs, RBG, 2v2, 3v3, shuffle, blitz, and each of the soloqs from shuffle/blitz are spec specific so technically they can also be counted for each of our classes specs separately. Rated system is also built on participation in each of the modes individually which is confusing thinking how thin the playerbase is spread on multiple modes. Iâm sure something similar is found in PVE aswell when handful of players are in multitudes of different modes.
I think they should focus more on improving the existing game as whole instead of adding more separate temporary modes that are outside of the current content. But its bit big task to even begin fixing the mess the game currently is related all of it, its hard to even explain when the dmg is so severe and multi dimensional with multiple effects.
Look for Communities or guilds that have clear standards w.rt. chill behavior. They do exist and make playing a lot more enjoyable. Also in my experience there is much less toxicity than reading the forums would suggest (though it does definitely exist).
I do adapt most of the time. Otherwise I wouldnt play this game anymore.
I agree.
Although I donât mind Remix if they make it a âonce per expansionâ type of event.
Yes thats why I dont read the forums that much. Thank you <3
We already have this, itâs called classic and retail. 
Seriously though, its a well meaning idea but we donât need more segregation in wow.
If this was implemented the âchillâ realms would be mostly empty and the âcompetitiveâ realms would be filled even more toxic with players arguing that other players donât belong in the competitive realms (whether it is true or not).
Iâm sorry, no. The few who know me on a more personal level here than the random posts know that there isnât a competitive bone in my body, however youâd just separate people based on your thought that x or y is better and somehow think that would be enough. It wonât. People are different and what you can do is play the game, make friends, make groups in group finder and avoid ones like âârush, blast, fastââ and so on in the names, you can proactively start chats and be nice to the people around you, because you think youâre doing the same thing but you probably just grumbled saying ââoh who has the energy to do that?â It depends on you. Sometimes, sure, people can be rude and thatâs out of your control but it absolutely is in your control to cultivate the people you play with, it absolutely is in your control to act the way you want others to.
Also: You think itâs the great competitive players who are toxic in your dungeons, but no, they arenât. Most of them anyway. I used to mythic raid and key push and I still have many friends from those communities, as well as hardcore collectors, people who used to push for 100% achievements and at some point had them and whatnot and what I can tell you is that generally these people are really nice and there to have fun. Itâs usually the mediocre player who thinks they are the best and with a weird fragile ego that youâve mostly had negative interactions with. Making ââchillââ groups as people mentioned is like a ââgod gamerââ repellent, avoiding the sweaty sounding groups is like taking a vaccine. Neither is 100% successful but it does so much to make your life easier. You have the power to make your experience better but you have to put in the effort. To add to that, if you arenât already, you also can do your best when you play with other people. Iâm not saying sit there and watch guides or use 45 addons because you canât pay me to do either of these things, but at the very least you could attempt to focus when youâre playing, read your spell tooltips, try to combine your spells into a rotation, avoid the obvious circles on the ground and potentially interrupt abilities, dispel a person, heal them, you name it. If not to avoid potential negative comments, just so you can help the people around you have more fun too.
Im totally with your argument here thoâŚ
I think its all about the environment still.
You can add player to your friendslist but when players are still afraid of making contact because demands.
The social aspect of when you adapt to a social contract there is demands.
Oh my god, Now I made friends and now I have to take part of those raids and stuff.
The feeling from the beginning of this game when we made friends just to explore the wonderful world. Just to run in the woods together not knowing what we would end up meeting. We didnt have Wowhead, we didnt have Icyveins.
We made friends to explore. To help us not get killed.
I know these times will never come back butâŚ
A server or something where you could have the social aspect.
Exploring a world, hanging out with friends. Joining a guild without expectations or demands.
Just playing for fun.
Did you all forget about that or did you never experience that?
If you didnt, Im sorry for youâŚ
I canât relate. Iâve played since vanilla launch, but I never made friends ingame.
I played with RL friends, sure. And some of them made friends; found a guild, dragged me along.
But not once, not ever did I make friends. Iâve met people I got along with; sure. But I would not call them friends.
Oh, I did. The best times I had in WoW was playing alone though.
Playing with friends means scheduling, socializing, adapting. None of which Iâm a fan of. I just want to log into WoW and enjoy myself when I want, for how long I want, doing what I want.
Each to their own, though.
I hope a community can be the solution for you. There must be likeminded people out there.
I so agree with you.
As I said earlier I play alone now. Its easy to do now.
In the early days you couldnt survive alone.
These days I play alone, I dont have to adapt or make schedules.
Thats what all of my post is about.
Classic versions still retain a lot of that old magic in my opinion.
Every time I play it I find myself chit-chatting with randoms in Orgrimmar, group with people questing or socializing in dungeons. Sure I do make an effort but itâs so much more natural and welcoming in the classic games than retail in my experience. I find people here are more open and chill as well as the old-school design of the game kind of forces you to be more social.
Of course there are rotten eggs even here but I just stay away from the most high end players and the rushers, I leave them to their thing whilst I do my thing.
I also think you can recapture much of the feeling from the beginning of the game whenever thereâs a new fresh server or an existing one moving up to the next expansion, even if youâve done it before. As long as you donât rush through it and sabotage yourself with guides and addons. Just take your time, explore and have fun.
Even I that have been playing from the very beginning discovered a quest that Iâve never done or even heard of before just last week by casually exploring while questing in Tirisfal Glades, a place Iâve quested in more times than I can count.
Well, you can make it clear what you want, like with other people IRL or establish it over time as you get to know each other. But you have to communicate. Youâre making it sound like thatâs too much?
If anyoneâs forcing you to do things when youâve said no, then you can also quit said community because itâs not for you. Iâm in communities that have me because they want me there, guilds on AD and my main realm, we can play together if we want to and we can chat if we want to. We have multiple in and out of wow avenues to do so.
Thottbot, Allakhazam, these are currently related to wowhead or not used anymore. People who youâve played with 20 years ago and exploring likely donât want to act like new players because they arenât. Exploring is lovely and many people still do it, itâs just probably not the way you want it to. The average player is also focused on completion and thereâs nothing you and I can do about it, but again, you can find people who want the same as you if you try.
Yeah, well, the difficulty shifted from the open world and right now everyone can survive the open world. In Legion Remix thereâs heroic world and the amount of times I helped others or received help is more than youâd think, at the same time Iâve also jumped to help friends. At the same time everyoneâs gotten better at gaming and the open world of classic wouldnât trouble people as much so people would rather have your company because they like you rather than because they need help from you and I kinda prefer that over the other. There are also delves in Retail that you can group up for or do by yourself and you could technically ask people to help you there, if youâd like. However you can also just join people if you want to.
Your definition of fun is different from othersâ. Iâm having the best time and thatâs why Iâm still here. Thatâs why Iâm still playing. Some people like running around alone and doing their open world content like Tah who responded alone. Like how I made it a part of my fun to goof around in the world in the early patches of a new expansion because the world is so populated and itâs all so fresh for everyone and myself. Back when bnet had a 200 player cap I had to keep removing people who werenât talking to me to accept new ones. I have experienced what you said, however youâre acting like itâs the better way, no, itâs YOUR way, itâs the way YOU enjoy it more and thatâs awesome. Iâm glad that this is a magical way to experience the game for you. It is for me too! But donât tell others that theyâre wrong for having fun by doing dungeons, donât tell others theyâre wrong for killing each other in battlegrounds. Their fun is completely valid and they deserve to do what they like just like you.
There are a billion social guilds and Iâm currently a part of two as I mentioned that arenât expecting me to raid. You can find them if you want to. Youâre just complaining for the sake of it and trying to find reasons to make it sound how the old times were better. They werenât. Maybe your life was better before but the game is better now and everyone has the ability to do what they like. If you think that youâll enjoy the old game more, please try to play classic again. Hit up an RP realm because theyâre sweet and run around and explore again. Youâll still meet people adventuring around the place and youâll still have that lovely priest buffing you and giving you a heal or the mage making you food or someone will see you fighting an elite (or you can ask in general chat) and youâll receive help.
So if this is what youâre trying to say: you may read what Iâve written above, but also: You sort of need a schedule to play with adults or youâd just have to be lucky to be online at the same time. As for the rest Iâve responded. That being said, it very much sounds like youâre saying that you cannot be bothered to put in the effort. Back in the day you used to and thatâs why you had more fun. You wanna have fun, you have to try harder than passively run around and hope that the fun will find you. Also maybe youâve outgrown this magic you thought the game had, because for me itâs still there.