Retail chill?

As I tried to tell you it wasnt about me. Im doing fine.

Dont understand why you try to make it about me and telling me I demand to much?!

I miss much of the social aspects and was just thinking about an idea how to maybe solve it. I dont have the answers. Im no longer a guildleader but I communicate with people. Thats what Im trying to do right here right now.

If you think Im demanding to much, please read again hun.

Noone is forcing me, Im typing this on my own accord.

Im not just trying to get my own game going, Im trying to talk for people I heard talking to me.

The weather is fine :slight_smile:

Go play LoL or other games.

Then come back and tell me about those “comments”. :slight_smile:

You havent seen half of what the internet can be. Eventually you become numb to all that.

You say you are a grandmother right?

Well you would remember what “cat-calling” in the streets used to be in the 60s or 70s. Imagine that society, but with out restrictions. No police to put you in jail for being a jerk


So. Considering everything. WoW is VERY mild compared to what there is out there.

And that is what you should teach your grand-sons.

There is also the issue that mid 2000s - social networking was in its infancy. People loging into a video game and actually talking to somebody felt magical cause it was “rare” and not common.
Fast forward to now? You wake up and the first thing you see on your phone? 5 WhatsApp(orwhatever other app) pings. Start playing any game - at least 5 more discord pings.
Once people get overloaded with this social stuff, they actually prefer to start playing solo instead of dealing with another ping in-game as well.
The more social apps and website we got
the less we actually want to socialize.

The game is full of kind and friendly people, you just need to find them.

You’re best bet (if you want to put in the effort) would be to try and find a ma and pa guild that has no cliques of people that think they’re the best thing ever. Once you find one (they are out there) you can have a couple alts in there and invite anyone you want to introduce to the game.

You’d have a safe environment to introduce people and meet like minded, friendly people to do various activities with so they’d get to know the game without any of the elitism that comes with certain activities.

Even just today added someone from blitz, unlucked in same game with obvious wintrader, playing very sus past seasons r1 account but in our game just trolls or even runs past us when were trying win with objective which they just ignored, so were chatting with this some other guy with whom we are trying our hardest to win even with these some healer+dps duos there that are obviously just afk and we are bored witnessing the game being traded by these blitz bandits. Banter some random in ques waiting for the next, even end in few same games and make jokes of kill each other in opposite teams, I say hey lets add and thats about all there was to it.

Another player added that I would play with and I had fun chatting through evening of games even while playing soloqs which in general annoy me to death because the people in soloqs are not ppl I really would want to play with but this time there were one among the dozen that I would. Youre right it’s just about being active self and luck honestly.

I’d pay big money for an offline version of this game that was totally single player but with AI for the group parts.

People are already doing this. World quests, quests, Delves, Story Mode, maybe even LFR.

There isn’t really something the game can do about this since this is a community driven issue.
If you have hard content, people will be competitive. Competitiveness inherently involves measurement, judgement and analysis.

If you want “relaxed, non-sweaty” players, you’ll just have to look for like minded people.

Even easy games, such as Classic WoW, turn pretty sweaty just due to people being people.

This is something Blizzard COULD work against. The issue is that Blizzard is more or less forcing key runners into more casual content by including certain rewards in it.


I’m interested in how you’d implement your suggested feature though.

2 different modes to log into. Competitive and chill. What’s differentiating the two? Is it just a label slapped onto the mode so people “know” what to go for? Or does it enforce certain behaviour?
Does it remove/include different content?

Yet the original post very much sounds like the social side is something YOU wanted to experience.

Well, many of us here mentioned how they’re still having fun and being social, each in our unique ways, clearly the game still has its magic. It just requires some input from the player to get the return on their efforts.

Well
darn it
that made me cry :sob:

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I had this exactly happen to me, ironically when I joined a guild in classic vanil they suspected each to have flask and world buffs and consumables for molten core and I were constantly pressured by others to waste gold in flasks for vanil easy raids like molten core even though they didnt have specific rule for it in the guild rules, the others just kept pressuring or nagging to you in discord as group if you didnt come raid with full flasks and buffs, I farmed the t2 set from bwl with them but then it was just too silly for me and I quit, I also never used single flask for molten core cause it doesnt need single consumable or buff to complete :smiley:

That is just the tip of the ice berg, then there is the dudes that farm honor day and night and completely nolife the old honor system making it virtually impossible for anyone to rank unless you try match them somehow. So I cant even obtain ranks in there unless I make 1.2mil honor somehow a week cause other people are living on their pc, yep. Few examples how classic can also be turn pretty sweaty. All in all retail is way more chill to me!

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I agree completely. That’s why I only do delves. I would enjoy some raiding, if it wasn’t for a possibility of meeting toxic people, who only see things their way and are unable to get into another person’s shoes, so to speak. And this is not something I am paying a sub for, to have bad experiences; I pay to have a relaxed game.

Regarding forming one’s own groups - I also agree, not everyone can do this. Social anxiety for example. I am a social person, but I too feel some anxiety when I have to form own groups.

So on topic: I think there might be a split in game modes one day. Remix mode seems to be popular, so the split would be to “normal/fun” (like Remix) and “hard mode” open world and instanced content.

dont cry please.
if you cry then ill cry too :sob: :sob: :joy: :joy:

jokes aside some good memories stay with you even after 50 years and that was one of them

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Yup, people just get sweaty no matter what they do. You absolutely do not need consumes for MC, but people require you do use it plus world buffs and what not. It’s insane but that’s how the WoW community always has been.

Have you tried joining a non-toxic discord group, like No Pressure (EU)?

They have a no tolerance policy towards toxicity.

Most of the groups in there are geared towards learning and have no problems with people taking it a bit slower. Its more about the social aspect.

Been there since the beginning of DF and rarely run pugs these days.

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Unfortionately that ship has sailed, wish it was different, at the risk of sounding mean (I don’t intend too):

Have you considered branching out your own gaming palette to play something else with your grandchildren?

If you’re older you’ve only got so much time and do you really want to spend that time waiting on Blizzard to try and change the game back to what it was, if they even can?

Don’t they have games to show you?

Even classic isn’t played like people used to play vanilla, its just low poly retail with less intense combat design at this point because of how most of the players play the game.

Hello Lunalove

Please do not cry, i am aiming for CE and top 0.1% m+ in Midnight and i want to be friends with you.

guys becarefull i have a copy in the forums now :joy:
allways check his armory