Retail WoW is the best game ever made

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I play Classic WoW for everything it has to offer.

  • Leveling 1-60 which takes 240 hours on average
  • Doing dungeons
  • Farming resources for gold
  • Buying gear, twink items for gold
  • Low level twink pvp, 19, 29, 39, 49, 59
  • PvP at 60 WPvP or BGs
  • Farming rare recipes/patterns which make you lots of gold in profit

Retail WoW has Loot piniadas everywhere, it’s too much for me. I don’t like the flow of loot in retail anymore, the wow token ruined the fun in grinding gold for me, completely removed that aspect from the game when you know that instead of farming for weeks to make 240k gold u can just swipe your credit card easily, don’t give me a sassy gitgud scrub answer but that’s how I feel.

Transmog is terrible idk what gear people are actually wearing, the scaling ruined everything for me in bg’s every1 is a pancake. There is no power gap anymore, everybody cried so much over the 16 years that the game’s been out that now it’s a flat pancake.

Retail WoW has probably gotten too big to see people out in the world anymore, it’s like a barren wasteland filled to the brim with npc’s. If you’re not in BFA zones you’re in a desert, flying in zones makes the world feel smaller than it actually is. If people were still tied to the ground they’d maybe still bump into each other.

But the massiveness and scale of modern WoW is mostly at fault, people are spread everywhere

AND of course don’t forget the hot damn LFG tool which automatically teleports you to instances, so people can be inside all sorts of instances all day leveling instead of questing outside, which is probably what most people leveling spend their time doing. It’s the simplest & easiest thing to do, just press a button and wait for queue to pop up, instant gratification and blue loot, u can even allow yourself to afk while people grind xp for u from time to time. It’s a problem that isn’t taken into consideration and has been ignored ever since it was introduced. Automatic teleportation to the instance is terrible for world immersion and player interest. It’s a huge sign of carelessness and lazyness by the devs to still allow this to work this way.
Classic WoW >>>>>> Retail WoW

Hate me, flame me
But I know for a fact there are way more possibilities and various ways of having fun in Classic WoW than Retail.

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Bro how many more until you realize no one really cares

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Here we go, another blood elf female trying to silence me down with his no1 cares, go away troll agenda

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No way people fall for your bait over and over and over again.

I hope it turns out funny tho, gl!

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If I had a dime for every time a belf female tried to tell me how wrong I am on the forums, I’d be Richer than GucciMane

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Well, I guess next topic is going to be aboot either :
-Sharding in Open world.
-Warmode issues.

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And here is orc shaman!

Nobody cares how you feel about classic

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Your post is somewhat rambling and not very coherent. You appear to be saying you enjoy playing classic wow, a fairly good reconstruction of the game when it was first released, something I and many others played when it first came out all those years ago.
I have dabbled in classic a little and it’s ok for what it is I’m sure it’s nice you’ve found it and are enjoying it at this point, but largely there is no point to your post that I can see really.
But enjoy and try not to get distracted!!

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go back to classic

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Well, you do care a little bit, be honest

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you are not even lvl 60 in your beloved classic :rofl:

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Good for you.
You enjoy doing raids standing still hitting 1 spell
Unblance PVP unless you’re Mage,Warlock,Rogue
RNG there just as bad as current wow, AV Pre-made (I am aware it’s fixed) rushing to Drek’thar 1 hitting YAY balanced, people exploiting spots in WSG where others can’t get, 1 hit Shaman abilities.
Did I mention standing still using 1 ability, again we all have our options on games, but honestly I couldn’t care less, put this in Classic General Discussion you can’t turn most of us into your “hardcore, super challenging” game mode…

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Allright mate, you got yourselfes an alternative to Retail that you like. Isnt that win-win for everyone?

Wich you can do in Classic aswell. Allthough illegal in both games, gold-selling and gold-buying are going on in both.

Thats your opinion. A vast majority of players can and will disagree with you. Why impose your needs on others when you have everything you want in Classic?

By the way, you can easily see “What kind of gear” (Itemlevel) one has by checking his or hers hp bar, something you couldnt and cant do in Vanilla/Classic.

In PvP, gear is how it is, there is no templars anymore. The better the gear, the stronger you will be.

You are arguing against yourself mate. First you complain about the world has gotten to big, and then you complain about it feeling to small because of flying mounts.

An absolute majority of Retail-players not only want flying, they would quit the game if flying was removed, myself included. Again, you have no flying in Classic, you got what you want: Classic. Why are you complaining because another game is not as your favourite game? Why do you have to force others to play a game constructed after your own needs?

And that only works for normal/heroic dungeons and LFR. If you are going to to any PVE that actually is relevant for both gearing up and get gear you want to keep you do atleast mythic dungeons, and then mythic keystone dungeons and/or normal/heroic/mythic raiding.

Trust me, there is enough stuff to do in Retail to keep up, if players were forced to run on ground-mounts through the world for every little thing they had to do the player-base would shrimp until it was non excisting.

Its actually you who are flaming others for not having the same preferences as yourself.

And your last statement, who are you to say that on behalf of others? I played Vanilla in its prime. I tried out Classic last autumn, i found out that it was terribly boring, slow, ineffective and meh, i was like “Im NOT doing this all over again” - Went back to Retail, and had a blast, and still are.

Just stay in Classic mate, there is many reasons why Retail has all the stuff that it has, and one of those reasons is that a vast majority of the community dont share your point of view.

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10/10 said

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I play Classic Often, I raid with a guild, but I would never say that it’s so much better than current BFA I like having the option to do other things, Current Retail has a lot of things I can do that Classic cannot, I love the new models, I played retail in TBC, I love changes I don’t think games should or will be the same, I totally disagree with you, LFG is a good way to learn the small mechanic and it’s an option for you, let’s be honest, Classic doesn’t have as much machanics and tactics like BFA, and it’s a good tool to learn, you don’t have to learn much in Classic, you’re being told once and it’s basically instantly understandable, I can say that currently in classic I would never say it’s harder AT ALL it’s more fun, the levling is fun, but current wow have 120 levels.

If you took off your heirlooms for example the levling ain’t that huge of a difference, there are people in current Classic who levled from 1-60 in less than a week as well, some streamers took 3 days, and it didn’t take me 200+ hours either to level to 60, I didn’t at all rush it either I enjoyed my time, I had around 150+ hours, Transmog is an amazing tool in wow. the days you look all messy is over, however you can always choose now to look like that as well :slight_smile:

Basically what you said now didn’t make much sense tbh you kept on trying to attack retail wow with your nonsense. however not gonna keep on and on explaining anything, if you hate retail so much then don’t play, are people really this dumb? if you don’t like it then move on and play classic, respect that games change, and be happy you got classic then mr level 10 :smiley:

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Everytime i see people complaining about leveling being to fast, they are never doing or willing to do the easy things that makes leveling in Retail significantly slower.

True. But its like a medieval religious sect. “I / We believe this and live like that. You dont, therefore we have to force you to belive and live like us” (Even tho they are left in peace to believe and live like they want)

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I have believe it or not levled so much in retail now as well, with the new scaling where you don’t have to switch zones all the time, for example, lakeshire as Alliance, and you of course have that 30% warmode bonus if you choose Alliance, however I don’t see much difference, I never complain about that, you can level from 20-45 almost in that one zone, then you continue in Duskwood zones that was not really made for mounts etc, it’s so easy, and it’s enjoyable, I prefer levling in BFA when I wanna relax, I see nothing bad with BFA it has its bad times and good times, but as I said above, Classic VS BFA kinda stuff it’s just silly, games change, Classic is not hard, if you want challenge then do M+ etc on BFA, and well said, my English is awful btw so excuse that.

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2/5. Got a point for effort.

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IT is not i actually hate how pvp works ,and classes feel weak/impact less comapred to pvp eveyrthing heals way more than hybrids etc.

For me pvp in terms of fun/sense is below pet battles.

Same classes some got destroyed with removing of Artifact others not so much .

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Some enjoy Classic, some enjoy Retail, and some even enjoy both.

I dont understand this “Us and them”-mentality where everything has to be either black or white.

How often have some knucklehead in these forums written something like “lol kek u skilless noob go play retail” (Actually Retail has a far higher skill-roof then what Classic has, while Classic probably have a higher skill-ceiling)

Retail and Classic communities are more then less the same, most Classic players are either former or current Classic-players. Alot of Retail-players play Classic aswell, alot of Retail-players have tried out Classic and found out that they didnt want to do this (Again) and alot of Retail-players are former Vanilla-players.

Meh, all this brainless toxicity. Guys like the OP got nothing to complain about as he got excactly what he what he wanted, Classic, so why make Retail into Classic when he already got Classic.

Understand your english perfectly well bro.

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