Not sure about all the Sin’dorei who are Illidari ( in my opinion at least some Blood Elf Demon Hunters definitely returned in Quel’thalas and rejoined Silvermoon in order to help them during the faction war of BfA, or even after) but the Scryers definitely should come back. We are talking of thousands of Blood Elves still stationed in Shattrath who declare themselves “neutral” and are STILL at the service of the Naaru despite their race on Azeroth need not only their numbers but also their wisdom and skills more than ever (being the Scryers the most powerful Magisters of Kael’thas’ army if I am not mistaken)
So, what are they doing still in Outland? Is Voren’thal even alive and holding them in Outland? The Scryers should just come back, especially now that Quel’thalas is focused on the Light more than ever (either because of the Light composition of the Naaru’s spark of the Sunwell or Lady Liadrin and the Blood Knights’ tirade about the Light…so if the Scryers want to serve the Naaru that badly, they could perfectly do it in Quel’thalas right now
at least we could say that if the Blood Elves go extinct on Azeroth for whatever reason, the race will still be alive on another planet because of them I guess
That depends on their view of each other.
I remember a Blood Elf Demon Hunter in the Warden’s Prison saying “My people shun me as a freak and what was my reward?” Now that could either be the Illidari or the Blood Elves of Silvermoon.
Also - the question arises to would, in lore, the Demon Hunters go back to their respective races by lore standards? Would Kayn Sunfury rejoin Silvermoon and Kor’vas Bloodthorn return to north west Kalimdor? At this point, if they haven’t already, I doubt they will. They are brothers and sisters in arms and they don’t see each other by their respective race, but by their willingness to serve the Illidari cause.
I think, especially for the Kaldorei, if they haven’t returned to night elf society, even after the Burning of Teldrassil, I doubt they ever will.
Lorewise, the Illidari are still a neutral faction, made up of night elves, blood elves, naga, broken and shivarra.
The only demon hunters who joined the faction are the player characters. The lore-based demon hunters, like Kayn, Kor’vas, Jace, Allari and Asha are still altogether and fighting alongside each other.
Also, it’s worth pointing out that neither the Kaldorei nor Sin’dorei armies contain Demon Hunters. Liadrin’s army in Arathi was a roster of Blood Knights, Magisters and a few Farstriders and Maiev’s army in Darkshore was a roster of Sentinels, Huntresses, Druids, her Wardens in Bashal’Aran as well as the Highborne Mage guy (who’s name I can never remember.)
Also, this very much adds up to how one roleplay’s their Demon Hunter. My Demon Hunter is a Blood Elf, but I have RP’ed her to being a totally neutral character where she works with all races regardless of faction, but she does hold reservations about the Forsaken and Death Knights.
You’d be hard-pressed to walk a few miles in TBC Quel’Thalas without catching glimpse of a fel crystal here or there. They were not above that, or desecrating a devine entity to absorb its holy powers.
And the Blood Elves did not become that much more squeamish with time. Sure, the fel crystals are no longer there and the Blood Knights seem to be back in your general paladin fantasy, but once they discovered Lei Shen’s blood magic on the Isle of Thunder they quickly employed it for their own uses, by using blood to fuel Mogu golems and create pylons of power with the blood crystals.
To this day they still operate both of those ‘questionable’ assets, along with warlocks.
So unless the lore has changed about fel and its consuming nature, it’s just as dangerous as using void magic in relation to the Sunwell.
How convenient that when the Alliance needs a void-themed race, the Blood Elves develop a sudden over-paranoid aversion to void (their warlocks use it too!). It still feels quite forced to me.
But these are the Void Elves we’re talking about, and at this point the horse has been beaten to death, undeath and beyond.
In the end they made playable High Elves anyway and this whole pantomine about “we’re going to give you High Elves but not really” was pointless.
But we simply don’t have the evidence to support that.
We know a few took to fel magic, in Silvermoon - but as far as the void goes, that was Drathir and then after him, it was Solarian in the Tempest Keep in Netherstorm, with her band of apprentices.
We have no evidence to support the Silvermoon/Horde Blood Elves delving into the powers of the void during the TBC period. All the “void” antics were done by Kael’thas’ forces in Tempest Keep and in the Sunwell Plateau with the Sunblade Dusk Priests.
Dark magic doesn’t solely refer to void, and fel harms Light and consumes Arcane all the same.
Both of those are now components of the Sunwell, and fel would prove just as destructive. But we don’t see the Blood Elves getting the jitters over warlocks, or fel, or any tipe of dark magic, they’ve never had issues with dark magic until Void Elves needed to become Alliance.
Because the scale in which fel magic was used was much smaller in comparison to that of the Elves on Outland.
This was all to sate their magical addiction and what most blood elves took to was the drain the magic out of beings in Quel’Thalas. Fel was a tool that a small chunk of the populace took to.
Also, Humans, Gnomes, Forsaken and Orcs all had Warlocks within their societies before Rommath returned to Silvermoon, so…
This was after the restoration of the Sunwell.
Alleria’s powers drew the attention of the void which nearly cost the Sunwell.
At the time when Silvermoon was starting it’s more direct methods of magical practices, they had no Sunwell. Hell, not even Kael’s Shadow Priests posed a real threat during the Sunwell Plateau raid as the fountain of power was being used by Eredar Warlocks, hoping to summon Kil’jaedon into Azeroth.
Fel crystals were everywhere in TBC Quel’Thalas, and (almost) nobody had an issue with sating their addiction with dark demonic magic.
But the Blood Elves still actively employ warlocks, who in turn actively employ fel and shadow and void magic.
Also, I repeat that after the Sunwell’s purification, these same Blood Elves took the Mogu’s blood magic in the Isle of Thunder - yet again, another supporting case of the Blood Elves being content with darker forms of magic.
I question the integrity status of the Sunwell during Kil’jaeden’s evocation.
Because of the recent times, I’ve only ever seen Blood Elven casters be Mages.
On the Isle of Thunder, Lor’themar’s Spellcasters were Mages.
In Arathi, Liadrin’s spellcaster force were Mages.
In Suramar, the spellcasters of the Blood Elves were all Mages.
Hell - let’s go all the way back to WotLK - the Sunreavers were an entire group of Blood Elf Mages, who played a large role with the Kirin Tor and salvaging Quel’Delar from Lana’thel.
Some blood elven sunreavers do reminise about using fel magic and how “it got the job done”, but I haven’t seen a relevant blood elf warlock presence since TBC. Especially a presence that maintained loyalty to Silvermoon.
The most recent faction-based, Warlock activity I have seen has actually come from the Orcs and Forsaken in Pandaria.
It wasn’t a fount of power that had any forms of a Naaru in it, at that time. It was a pure Arcane source, that was being used by Warlocks.
This was a rinse-and-repeat of what happened to the Well of Eternity within Zin-Azshari with Queen Azshara and Xavius’ band of Magi and Warlocks.
Blood Magic doesn’t affect the Sunwell, in the same way as the void does.
True but they are fighting against whom I wonder, considering the Legion and the majority of the demons have now been defeated…soon they could have to rename themselves into Void Hunters or Light hunters (depending by which one of the two forces become a threat for the whole world or universe first )
The Void is far worse than Fel though, not only because it’s way more powerful and dangerous and one of the two primordial forces of the universe and not only because it can corrupt the Sunwell and possibly doom the world in the process but because the whispers of the Old Gods assure that you will fall to madness and serve them sooner or later. Even Alleria admits this will be her fate too, eventually.
Sure, Fel can drive one (like Kael) crazy too (mostly for his own reasons rather than the fel magic itself, actually, because he didn’t want to return and be seen as a failure so he became power-hungry and joined the Legion) but actually most of the Blood Elves who survived after him managed to stay sane. While all the Void Elves are damned to madness eventually.
Well, that’s a given. Realistically a person like Grand-Magister Rommath would have never exiled Umbric and his followers, he’s way too pragmatic and without moral qualms to run a risk like that…
Umbric and his followers would have just been imprisoned, mind-controlled into obedience, or at worst, executed for treason.Even if nowadays the Blood Elves are not as ruthless as they were in the past, there’s no way Rommath would have just exiled them knowing they wanted to study something dangerous for the Sunwell like the
Void, but Blood Elves had to act dumb and naively in order for the Alliance to get playable Void Elves.
Well what difference is their between a blood elf warlock and the other races that can still be warlocks?
It’s not too far out of the ordinary for a blood elf to want to wield fel magic as some blood elves still want to hold onto those arcane/fel magical practices that they either learned in Quel’Thalas or if they are returned Sunfury.
Nightborne can be Warlocks, yet we hardly see any of them and *spoilers", we’ve only seen a little bit more development surrounding their Hunters when it came to the Nightborne Archers holding Sira at arrow-point. (Personally, I think the Madeline was fangirling over Thalyssra and the Nightborne a little too much in the novel, when they appeared in the story.)
1 Blood Elf Warlock Archaeologist is hardly causing the Sundering 3.0
Lore-based - probably the void, but the Illidari are a faction that don’t work in a Horde vs Alliance expansion setting.
This includes all their characters like Kayn and Kor’vas and even those who really should have been given lore moments in BFA like Lady S’theno.
None, but if the introduction of the Void Elves is based on Silvermoon adopting an anti-dark magic policy because it could harm the Sunwell, warlocks who wield all of those could achieve the same damage, but yet it’s only the Void Elves who are too dangerous even miles away from the Sunwell.
Makes no sense to me.
^ This.
Any of the alternatives proposed by Hella are much more logical.
Heck, let me rant on this for a moment. The Blood Elves resolved the issue of Umbric studying Dar’khan Drathir’s secrets…by exiling him into the very same land where Dar’khan kept those secrets? Surely nothing bad will ever come of that!
Umbric might as well have tipped his hat and thanked the BEs for letting him research completely unmolested, compared to when he was in Silvermoon getting harassed by Rommath.
Depends on the levels that the Void Elves were delving into.
Void Elves have caused a lot of confusion. I still can’t fathom the difference between them and a Blood Elf Shadow Priest.
All of this was in the name of giving the Alliance, the Thalassian Elf Model and instead of just giving “High Elves”, they gave something that was hard to fit in. I wouldn’t have minded Void Elves if they were just radical High Elves…perhaps survivors of Quel’lithien Lodge, led by Ranger Hawkspear…at least we’d have a bit more juice and we’d have a more believable conflict between them and the Blood Elves.
Actually that’s not really a big problem, because I think in lore Blood Elf warlocks probably “specialise” themselves in using fel magic and demons (either casting powerful and dangerous fel spells (Destruction) or summoning demons (Demonology).
Very few of them use shadow magic, and even fewer void magic especially after the exile of the Void Elves.
It just makes sense in lore as there are precise barriers, like most of the Blood Elves and Draenei Priests are just Holy/Discipline and not Shadow, and conversely Void Elves priests using the Light should be almost non-existent, just like Forsaken Priests, or the fact that during Vanilla, Night Elf Druids should have been almost exclusively males, and Night Elf warriors/hunters should have been exclusively females…unlike the gameplay, in lore there are specific barriers for classes and races
They also used the blood of that Turtle Loa in Nazmir, even if I am not sure the Zandalari were happy about that ( and after all Blood Magic should not be that dangerous for a race calling themselves “children of blood” )
But shouldn’t we give equal opportunities to everyone?
We’ve seen plenty of female night elf archdruids commanding battalions of other druids and warriors, shouldn’t male night elf moon-priests be given their equal time to command a battalion of priestesses and sentinels?
Mind you, this isn’t me starting to fan over night elves. I prefer Nightborne, Blood Elves and Void Elves (but even I got a sense that in the recent novel, Shadows Rising, Madeline was fangirling over Thalyssra and the Nightborne whenever she got to write them in.)
