Revert Nerf to Raw Gold Farming (raids, dungeons)

[Jóôló-drakthul]

I miss the skining LW farm to craft and sell items
that was the best
i did that during 8.3 in atal dazar free gold
i like that they add gold into daily callings and mission table
but i rather kill stuff farm stuff and sell stuff

EDIT:
imagine being salty about killing old raids for 2-5k gold per week
meanwhile you can print free gold from callings and BTW calling is every day for 3k
and if you hit exa and then you do paragon that is even more gold
i know it because i’m already doing that on my 8 characters soon i will have even more of them to do that

[Daestra-turalyon]

@Jóôló-drakthul

imagine

Thats used in totally the wrong context .

@Jóôló-drakthul

salty

Do grown ups still use that in 2021 ?

@Jóôló-drakthul

i know it because i’m already doing that on my 8 characters soon i will have even more of them to do that

Good for you but others enjoy different way of doing things .

[Jóôló-drakthul]

ye whatever go do something productive you are saaalty i can see it

[Daestra-turalyon]

@Jóôló-drakthul

saaalty

@Daestra-turalyon

Do grown ups still use that in 2021 ?

Rest my case .

[Jóôló-drakthul]

ye still whatever

[Wavethunder-azjolnerub]

@Serenå-argent-dawn

Hi WoW Developers, since you have shown that you listen to the player base and our feedback, can you please revert the nerf that you did to gear value (selling to a vendor) in Shadowlands prepatch?
Many people like me really enjoyed farming Old Raids for gold, it was the most relaxing way to farm gold while also dropping cosmetics!

I also liked farming gold from legacy content. Really hope they’ll remove the nerf.

[Lfsugarmommy-ashbringer]

it means more MAU’s. do it daddy blizzard.

[Serenå-argent-dawn]

@Sungyun-the-shatar

u want to see how i make my money ?

A-are you from Argent Dawn?

[Sungyun-the-shatar]

look at this gray item droped from mobs in Ardenwield

https://ibb.co/WnX7dCb
https://ibb.co/Y8NyV4T
https://ibb.co/nLm8dP7

easly 400-620 gold ea

this is raw gold farm so the AH economy does not effect this prices …

this are just exampels there is meny meny more gray items with same prices in diff zones …

[Morlake-argent-dawn]

Don’t do it.

It drives inflation.

There is already way too much gold entering the economy atm.
We have callings giving us average 2k gold /char /day.
Mission tables (if set up) range between 250-750 gold char/day for 1 minute worth of activity (i haven’t invested in them to a huge degree but even so my table gives my account a reliable 750-2250 gold a day).
Both of these things generate fair gold /week and take very little time to do (callings = 15 minutes tops and missions = 1 min) so if you throw the “old system” of raiding gold on top of this you’d be doubling the amount of gold entering the economy currently from current easily (for one char).

[Sungyun-the-shatar]

well the misson table has addon what sets ur followers automaticly on missons just opening the table

[Ãnna-silvermoon]

Master Plan?

I haven’t touched those tables yet…

[Sungyun-the-shatar]

not a fan of misson tables myself …

[Wavethunder-azjolnerub]

@Morlake-argent-dawn

We have callings giving us average 2k gold /char /day.

You do realise we used to get tons of gold from faming old content right? Everyone could’ve had big amounts of gold ONLY from old content. I used to get 9k gold from HFC on nm, hc and mythic in around an hour (give or take). If you did that on 8 chars in max 2 days, you would’ve had 72k gold, just in 2 days ( that is if you chose to do 4 chars in 1 day and the other 4 the next day). It was an EXTRA option to make more gold, and we had a lot of fun doing that. If you wanted to run old content for gold, fine, if you didn’t, you could’ve work on your professions and sell what you crafted or do what you are doing now, dailies, repeated, boring dailies. You get it? We had more fun options.

[Sungyun-the-shatar]

old contnet trasmog selling on AH on RP servers is also a alternative …

[Morlake-argent-dawn]

@Wavethunder-azjolnerub

@Morlake-argent-dawn

We have callings giving us average 2k gold /char /day.

You do realise we used to get tons of gold from faming old content right? Everyone could’ve had big amounts of gold ONLY from old content. I used to get 9k gold from HFC on nm, hc and mythic in around an hour (give or take). If you did that on 8 chars in max 2 days, you would’ve had 72k gold, just in 2 days ( that is if you chose to do 4 chars in 1 day and the other 4 the next day). It was an EXTRA option to make more gold, and we had a lot of fun doing that. If you wanted to run old content for gold, fine, if you didn’t, you could’ve work on your professions and sell what you crafted or do what you are doing now, dailies, repeated, boring dailies. You get it? We had more fun options.

Indeed, but by virtue of the fact those that did it did it, it drove inflation.

I’m well aware that it made a truckton of cash. I did it for a small bit in the past.

But if people think that allowing people to inject another “easy” 72k gold per 2 days into the economy is going to do anything substantial other than drive prices up they clearly don’t understand how economy works.

Having the raid farm there is great for managing the vendor costs (repairs etc) and smaller bills, but it would do nothing for stuff like leggo prices etc because if people have more gold to spend then the price will go up to reflect the economy’s spending power.

I mean regarding leggo base items, many of them are priced without regard for their mat costs anyway. A vestige costs about 20k gold to craft now, and the mats of the base item are about what? another 15k? maybe 40K? Yet the items go for 100k. 60k of that price is entirely determined by economic forces and desire for profit.

Which means if suddenly more of the playerbase has more gold, the sellers will acknowledge that and start to price their goods upwards.

I mean i wouldn’t oppose it if it returned at all. I just don’t think it would “solve” any cash issues some players find, and in the long term having such huge sources of gold insertion into the game be so easily available isn’t great for the economy and the “average joe” who doesn’t consciously gold farm (because all the prices are Joe will go up, thus forcing them to engage in the farm as well to keep up).

[Wavethunder-azjolnerub]

@Morlake-argent-dawn

But if people think that allowing people to inject another “easy” 72k gold per 2 days into the economy is going to do anything

Not allowing to add another 72k g, to REVERT THE GAME at its former self, with the old gold value on gears, before the nerf, because, HFC wasn’t the only instance to farm gold, so it wouldn’t be only 72k gold LOL. You had many options. Too many changes that weren’t necessary. Don’t twist my words please.

@Morlake-argent-dawn

other than drive prices up they clearly don’t understand how economy works.

This is what you don’t understand, at the end of the day, WoW is just a game, players just want to have fun, not to see politics and business mindset from blizzard. Blizzard nerfed this because players used to gather gold way too easy and it wasn’t profitable for them.

@Morlake-argent-dawn

but it would do nothing for stuff like leggo prices etc because if people have more gold to spend then the price will go up

@Morlake-argent-dawn

Yet the items go for 100k.

I don’t think so. And btw, do you even know how much hard work it’s being put to max the legendaries?! 100k it’s pretty cheap. You forgot it’s a legendary, the ultimate gear in game. If you don’t want to work hard for it (you do have that option, you know), be prepared to pay with gold.

@Morlake-argent-dawn

don’t think it would “solve” any cash issues some players find,

Yes it would, It will solve a lot of things. Including people having more fun while farming for gold.

@Morlake-argent-dawn

if suddenly more of the playerbase has more gold, the sellers will acknowledge that and start to price their goods upwards.

@Morlake-argent-dawn

and in the long term having such huge sources of gold insertion into the game be so easily available isn’t great for the economy

So, basically, capitalism? Keep most of the players poor so the rich players can get more benefit? So big amount of gold shouldn’t be allowed to everyone, even if they work hard for it? For crying out loud man…

Again, not allowing, but reverting the game at its former self.

[Ãnna-silvermoon]

I wouldn’t mind but they have nerfed raw farming more than once… doesn’t feel fair to be punished because they can’t stop bots.

[Daestra-turalyon]

@Ãnna-silvermoon

I wouldn’t mind but they have nerfed raw farming more than once… doesn’t feel fair to be punished because they can’t stop bots.

I could understand dungeons but to do it to raids which are on a weekly lock anyways was really annoying

[Sighuman-silvermoon (Sighuman)]

@Daestra-turalyon

I could understand dungeons but to do it to raids which are on a weekly lock anyways was really annoying

Raids farming should be more profitable, at least they should be proportional to the expansion they were released, f.ex. a MoP should award more than a TBC raid and so on and so forth.