Reward tanks and healers more in M+

If they are not getting one shot, you have your CDs to just press them. Is like one more button press in your rotation. That’s not hard. Idk what some people have with healing this expansion, is finally a bit challenging and actually fun.
And considering this is season start, I gotta say it’s already almost impressive how many people are actually using defensives. Last week that was barely the case at all.

lmao

Just behave then and you would avoid ban…

Tank does not need to know much, tells me all about your level.
As tank you need to know every single trash mob ability to know how big you can pull, and plan def cd based on it. And also be able to evaluate how much aoe dmg there is so you don’t kill team. But sure, pull crazy and hope healer can handle…

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This is not how it works.

Mah dude, I am healer main and I can easily tank everything that I can heal. There is really nothing to it. I think you just sweat too much.

I am talking about everything until +9, not higher. Basically what the majority plays. Barely any knowledge required there. At least nothing that requires you to watch guides or anything. Everything is quite simple and if you start tanking with low keys (which I did not), then you will learn it on the go.

So knowing basics and/or having a little bit of common sense is what you consider stressful? Ye… my level is gotta be the issue here… for sure.

A really good point

All this will do is get people doing roles they dont want to just for something to collect and it won’t work either. Maybe a few will end up enjoying it but most will not.

Its an old game with not that many new players coming in, people know what they like and don’t like by now.

Theres a good reason why people avoid tanking or healing and that will never be solved.

I perform way worse, if I get flamed in a rude way during a run, because then I get anxious that people don’t leave after a mistake, and play nervously. Thus, I’m more in my head, and mistakes happen more often. This only happened maybe 3 times so far though, and normal criticism is always welcome.

So, if you wanna time a key, I recommend suggesting tips or constructive criticism, instead of “trash tank, bind taunt”. For example I sometimes pull out details, and just call out, if someone has 0 interrupts without insults. Issue is, that if you disrespect people, they focus less on the game, and more on your insult. If you tell someone to use interrupt more politely, they will focus more on interrupting.

There is another point to this.
People start to give “constructive criticism” after people fail once without even realizing what happened. Like, someone could have lagged, screwed up cause an overlap or 100 other reasons.
It does not necessarely mean they need a recap on the entire mechanics just because they died. Sometimes people fail, that’s literally what the game mechanics tries to do during fights. It happens.

too much overthinking for tanks to be played , trust me you don’t wanna do that , cause you’ll see people switching roles with bad stats and gear just to get more crests , main tanks should be maint tanks in your keys , just make tanks more enoyable like in df , reason why tanks are less played this expac , is because m+ is too stressful , too much damage , too many punishing deaths , tanks are scared of ruining a run and getting finger pointed at when the group dies , we tend to forget that this a game not a stressful job , well hopefuly m+ tyranical and fort get nerfed a little bit , cause the combination of both and the 15 s death timer is too punishing.

I’d rather have a good tank than someone giving it a whirl because they want some reward. It’s fine for LFR or Heroic dungeons but for M+ I prefer one that knows how to play their spec.

My cd is on cd… I rotate all of my buttons all the time trying to keep alive bad group(while they press 3 buttons in their rotation all dungeon), do not act like you know what is going on, since you obviously don’t. You don’t solo pug low level dungeons

I was there too, no worries. Wait till you pug +7 :wink:
My healers heal ~400k hps, while I heal 700k+
Not even kidding.

https://imgur.com/L3wemwj
https://imgur.com/PfEbCcp
https://imgur.com/pj1kbTm
And the list goes on and on and on…
Meanwhile… https://imgur.com/glKpV6R

On low keys people at least don’t die to what they will die on higher keys, if they don’t pop defensives. You can literally make up for it as healer. In some dungeons even all the way up to +9… especially after the dungeon nerfs and because people are more geared than they were last week.
You will not be able to make up with your heals for every situation but for most. That’s why healing is actually fun this expansion.

Ive had 630+ overall in SV +6 and 14 interrupts, pres evoker 610
It was deplete too, btw
You cant make up for everything as a healer
I found healing fun last expansion and this one, but I do not like how people say that healer can make up for everything, or, if the group dies, healer dont press their cds

And I didn’t say you can make up for everything. Most of it tho.Sspecially Stonevault you can carry hard as a healer. Outsides of one shots obviously. Did anyone die at the crystal boss?

This is with aug it helps with healing numbers btw

Aug barely helps. Can link you SV +7 with 700k+ too :wink:

Overall: https://imgur.com/znxyEBm
Bosses overall: https://imgur.com/m5jDGuJ
On details it was showing more, like ~850k but wcl is showing less, as you can see here:
https://imgur.com/0C6EHNK
This is the dungeon where details showed ~750k

I will make screenshots for you, now I only have this one from some deplete boss in +4 imgur. com/a/xKjVIlc

Is not showing much without context. With Evoker 610 you can easily pump 1,5+ in a boss fight. (as Rdruid too if required)
But for dps there is not much that can be said without context.

Edit: Especially Stonevault is where you can shine as Evoker and make people cleanse their debuff at the last boss with Rescue, meanwhile I have to stupidly heal through if they don’t cleanse.

They don’t need a rewards, my company is enough.

You assumed that I do not press my cds, can you do 900k+ with no pressing buttons? This was something from the first week, the only sc I found. And I was like 605ilvl. You can also look at dps meter through the fight with aug and make some connections if you wish

I am not here something to prove though, I do find assumptions that others dont press buttons if they say healing is hard really silly but you do you, I hope people will not listen to you and then scream at healers in pugs why did they die “it is easy for healer to keep the group alive through all bs” :clown_face:

On a boss? Of course. If that was overall in dungeon this week, I’d call you my Senpai and take lessons from you. Even on broken pEvoker.

On first week I was pumpin 1,5+ mil in NW pre nerf on my shaman. That’s basically pressing 2 buttons. That’s why I said it’s not hard.

As I said, without any context there is not much I can say for this one unknown boss fight, not for the dps, not for hps. I need more context in order to compare it to my runs.

Well I didn’t assume it tho? I just said you have CDs to press. Now obviously Rdruid can heal easier more without CDs than other healers, which is why I claimed (in other posts) it to be one of the best pug healers, if not the best (while tier lists claim it to be C tier) but every healer has some CDs to rotate for a boss fight. If you waste them tho, that’s on you. That was my point.
If you would have linked me some 1,5+m hps boss fight on a low key, I’d instantly say how unlucky and bad your groups are. Even if that was NW pre nerf.