If you count the amount of rage you used to reduce it and also using the PvP talent sure, I could see that. Bladestorm we’re my first thought due to CC immunity while also dealing dmg. But the 45sec cd is abit of a stretch if it counts on things to reduce its CD or not so I started to think of other options. xD
Ah, indeed it was too easy: Bladestorm / Avatar. However I could not believe that it’s legal
With talents Bladestorm, Avatar, Anger Management, Unhinged, Blademaster’s Torment, Storm of Destruction:
Deals damage without loosing power (Mana, energy, rage): Bladestorm and Avatar do not cost any Rage, and are Instant
Increases your overall damage. When you cast Bladestorm, Avatar is casted automatically. Avatar increases damage output.
Has less than 45 sec cooldown. Bladestorm is 90 sec cd (or 60 sec if pvp talented), Avatar is 90 sec cd. So every 45 seconds you cast either Bladestorm or Avatar and you will be have Bladestorm activated with all the perks. Additionally every 20 range spent reduces cd by 1 second for both abilities.
Autocasts another ability. Bladestorm autocasts Avatar and it autocasts 2 Mortal strike for free at random target. MS costs range, but with bladestorm it’s free. With sweeping strikes MS will hit your target with 100% chance.
Makes you immune to all CC. By definition of the Bladestorm.
Additional perks:
It will reduce healing by 50% if you cast Sharpen Blade beforehand
First autocasted free MS will deal increased damage if you stuck Overpower.
There is no any other ability that does so much in 1 go with such a short CD. It’s like casting Ice block and then Glacial Spike is casted automatically, instantly at all targets with no prerequisites. I felt jealous for my main when I found out this. And with all of this at the same time Arms has access to the most cheating ability - Spear of Bastion, that cannot be countered without full immunity and one of the strogest instant dots - Thunderous Roar.
Just kite lil bro. Get some better gear. A warrior shouldn’t get kill you in the open world as an arcane mage unless he is full geared and manages to delete you before your reflexes kick in. A good arcane mage will run circles around a warrior in the open world.
If you’re getting bladestormed to death that means you probably already messed up / were jumped.
Of all the things you should be complaining about in wpvp - mm hunters, ret palas, healers, your choice is one of two or three classes in the game that can still be kited and can’t kill you from 40 yards away
You forgot the part where you can’t kick, shatter, stun, charge or leap while in it. Theres a reason why every single warrior has a cancelaura bladestorm macro and they use it often - as said in my other post if you’re dying to a bladestorming warrior as an arcane mage in wpvp, something has already went wrong.
All of these are opinions based on his experience leveling his alts. I.e, he encountered these abilities and had the following opinions on them. I’m pointing out to him that these abilities are fairly easily countered in wpvp by an arcane mage. Could be that the dude plays affliction warlock and just decided to post on his fresh arcane mage, but yeah, i don’t like making assumptions like that.
He compared to what Bladestorm did that no other skill did and made a riddle of it. If you want to get insanely offended by someone talking about ppl being jealous of an ability that does dmg and gives you cc immunity… I guess its up to you.
I wouldnt be offended if someone compared anything to Divine shield and what it does or any other ability.
Can you tell me any other ability that does as much as bladestorm combined with normal and pvp talents?
Looks more to me you get more easly offended than most ppl.
why would i be offended by a guy comparing unhinged bladestorm to pressing iceblock and omnicasting glacial spike? i think its funny. the dude doesn’t know what hes talking about, i’m informing him the world isn’t ending - you can blink out of spear of bastion, which is why no warrior runs it into mages, and you can hard kite bladestorm by using arcane mage’s movement speed, blinks, alter time or just straight up iceblocking it.
write your next post and then remove every instance of you assuming my mental state before posting it
also, I called him lil bro because his name is literally bro. Again,
So you had to quote my saying you got offended 3 times to show how offended you got? x)
Where is he whining about arms warrior and Bladestorm/Spear of Bastion? All he did were count out different combos with it and comparing. If you really got insulted by ppl talking about a skill… Whelp.
Its facts Bladestorm makes you immune to CCs. Its facts it does quite alot of dmg. Its facts it does alot of things combined with it. But you instantly targeted it because it was directed at arms and you felt something was horribly wrong, quite simple. So you had to bash him.
And why would I care about the “lil bro” comment? I targeted the “just kite” but I guess… You “pay better attention”
Congratz, I didnt get insulted or offended, was just funny. Do you see how easy it was, or did you get affected by this now?
Man, I was pointing out that you used the same incorrect assertion 3x in one short post. Relax.
Never said he was whining. He identified something he thinks is OP, that is not whining. First you say i’m whining and offended, now you say hes whining too? Calm down dude.
Because you think i’m offended + bashing him?
Telling an arcane mage to kite is offended + bashing now? Huh
Thank you
Ok
Also, I think you were the person the other day that was trying to say Ret wasn’t OP relative to arms, so I decided to try it out for myself - logged on, powerleveled with the timewalking thing, bought myself some conquest boxes and yoinked some paladin’s build, probably vanguards’
ended up getting to your rating in just 4 lobbies after going 20-4. I knew the spec was OP but man, this is a different beast entirely from the drivers seat. Doing 60k DPS sustained and watching everyone rage sure was funny. Watching people with current season gladiator drakes get absolutely crumpled because I pressed Wake of Ashes at 5HP and then thumped a random combination of DPS buttons outside of wings was a sight to behold. Gives me memories of 3.0 Blood DKs, but on steroids!
Ah sorry, I forgot ppl need to use the word “whine” to “whine”. Hm, and now you are also making it sound like I said he was whining when I said he didnt… Huh, is that some way of trying to change direction? Oh no, what can that mean…
So you are telling me you had to basically tell him:
Is not? Alrighty!
Combined. Theres alot of ppl who just say “just kite” like its the answer, which in most cases are, but its a funny way to defend something since u could say it about basically majority of skills in the game x)
The best part is, you dont even know what I said. I never said Rets are Above or Below Arms. I said both are overtuned, but in your mind, only one spec at a time can be overtuned. Quite simple if you look through the logs. You cant fathom more than 1 overtuned spec at a time. The kind of person whos quite difficult to discuss with unless they fully agree with what you say.
So you are now targeting my rating? I could have easly played ret and gotten alot higher when they were at its most broken form, but guess what… I didnt, but oh man, I guess you cant fathom that even when u can clearly
Oh, well, I guess you didnt this time! Better luck on your journey!
Oh btw, I will be waiting to see you at high rating since you said its that broken! 3S aswell plz! It will prove so much!
Ok last one because I saw this earlier and found it funny:
I will never understand the cope people go on when their class is clearly SSS+ tier. Havoc enjoyers did it at the start of the expansion. The numbers don’t lie, they never do, especially in seasons where people can FOTM with ease. The original conversation point was that Ret is so far ahead of the next melee, Arms, that they were barely worth talking about in comparison - especially from a ret paladin’s POV. In fact it is mostly ret paladin that is enabling fistweaver as well, but yeah, no real point using logic when we can just look at the numbers and see a vivid, undeniably, uncomfortably large gap between ret and every other spec in the game right now.
Atleast you keep proving my point! You are incapable of understanding more than one thing at a time!
And also:
That. You have a few days on you, considering you say its that easy, go for it! Unless you are all talk?
And, did you know that you can actually see when someone got to lvl 70? on specific characters? x)
Best part is, I never said rets wasnt overtuned. Its just you who are incapable of not understanding unless its talked in the way you want it to be, thats the funny part. The instant anyone says arms is overtuned, you go defensive mode and targets rets above arms just to “prove” arms isnt overtuned. “Incapable of seeing more specs than one being overtuned at the same time.”
I forgot, you quoted the “Quite simple” but not the entire part so you went quite hard out of context for some reason trying to prove a point when I never said anything about rets not being overtuned. But you rly like to make assumptions without looking through my “ACTIVITY LOGS”. But I forgot…