We have all heard the problem people have with the raiderio score. It’s restrictive for new players, hard to catch up on when behind etc etc… well, that’s not what I’m here to talk about.
I’m here to talk about players who leave the group and ruin the key because the run is not going fast enough and they don’t want it to show on their profile. Or, they were going for just the RIO score, and don’t actually care for finishing the dungeon if finishing it is not going to increase their score.
Many of my keystones have been ruined by randoms for this exact reason, and the entire party has lost any chances at getting loot.
If it’s going to be like this, we should be allowed to replace people in M+. There is no reason a leaver should be able to destroy my key just because he chooses to, as well as nullifying all the effort put in by 4 other people.
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No all we heard is the crying. I’m low ilvl and inexperienced, but it is RIO’s fault that no one invites me.
Run your own keys.
Can be and advised to be done in one day with your own keys.
Although I have never left any keys as I run it with guildies, I don’t think the keys you failed show up on your page if you have done a bigger one.
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Yet blizzard are working on there own version ready for SL so get used to it.
So Rio is there to help you filter out weaker players who are more likely to deplete your key, for example the new affix requires a tank with knowledge of the mechanic or even better a route.
I am not going to invite a tank queueing with only healer exp for a +12 
Vice versa.
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So get the five heads faced in the same direction before you start.
Rio doesnt prevent anyone from doing m+ or making your own groups.
Leavers happened with and without rio because it wasnt going fast enough.
Also Blizzard will implement an own system to replace rio in SL aswell.
Catching up to rio scores is easily done and requires a bit of time and effort but is always possible.
Stop blaming addons for decreasing your chances in this game.
Whats next? Whine about weakauras?
Player x can code WA’s way better than me so he has an advantage over me.
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Put a note in the description that u will finish even if u dont time it, then those that are after pushing probably wont sign up for it 
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The only thing toxic about M+ is the timer, without that there would be no io
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Yup, that is what i did when i still pugged. Allthough it didnt always work, it makes a giant difference in the kind of people that join keys like that
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There wouldnt be any m+ without that either
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And it would completely remove the need for the m+ content.
Are you so stupid or just making a bad troll attempt?
Damn. That logic.
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I would argue that key depletion is more toxic, and the reason why RIO came to be in the first place.
What if… upon failing a timer… you got a key of the same level? But that there was a way to manually downgrade it if you felt it was too low?
But then, I also think the solution is to join a guild or community and exclusively run keys with them. If you know you’ll be seeing those players again day after week after month - everyone tries harder, nobody trolls, and if you fail, well, that’s fine, try again.
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No, there is no problem with RIO. Sometimes, just sometimes could people look in the mirror and stop blaming everyone else for their own problems.
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Most people leave when groups don’t work. You still get RIO score even if you miss the timer, and you get loot. But when you see after fifteen minutes that a run will take two hours, there are players who won’t stay around for that.
RIO is a fantastic addition to the game. No aspect of M+ would be better if RIO didn’t exist. It isn’t perfect, and nobody claims it is, but M+ pugging would be a much worse experience without RIO.
What is better than RIO is playing with guildmates or friends. You can also add reliable players after a decent run and stay in touch with them.
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It’s not. At best, people are.
If you are interested as to why, seek out any of the umpteen other threads that pop up each week.
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Yawn.
I like pizza. My favourite is pepperoni and onion.
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I dont like that the pepperoni turn into extremely hot slices of mouthdeath when in the oven, i underestimate the temperature each time i eat one
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A valid concern. What’s your favourite pizza then? I trust a man of your heightened awareness and fashion sense can teach us all pizza lovers a lesson
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A genuine margherita is always nice, allthough i must say i like a bit of fish on my pizza as well.
I must stress that i like pepperoni as well, its just that i like to dig in without crippling myself orally
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The worst thing about RIO is that it creates an elitist attitude for players that should not have one.
Literally every moron can run +15 keys. The amount of absolute 10/10 garbage players I’ve met that acted like you need a high RIO score to get invited is ridiculous.
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