Rise of Horde Bias Episode 47

I highly doubt that. Or do you just mean the last Alliance Raiding Guild that you are told you should care about?

Place the blame where it lies. People transferring Factions for FoTM Racials to defeat certain bosses, and then the sheep that follow them.

Nah it ain’t.

By definition, it is not the ‘Elephant in the Room’, because that refers to a situation that no one talks about. Trust me, as a long time user of these Forums, for some people there is nothing else they seem to be able to -do- than talk about it.

When people use that phrase ‘Cancel Culture’ (Especially given some of the types that bleat about it) what they actually mean is ‘Freedom from consequences’ Some of these people get their news from Breitbart despite knowing that it is often factually incorrect and distorted.

They often go on about "OMG, I can’t say X because of ‘Leftists’ or ‘Woke’ culture and other such ridiculous phrases, without realising that those terms were only invented by over-entitled who think their opinion is so important that everyone -has- to listen to it, to hells with what they think. They don’t realise that they have the Freedom of Speech, but they do not have (and no one historically has had) the Freedom of Consequences from that freedom of speech. Try to explain to them that censorship is nothing new in history and never will be and they simply won’t listen but jam their fingers in their ears going “nope! It’s the Leftists! It’s Cancel Culture, It’s Wokism” Without realising how juvenile it sounds. Fortunately for them, they generally -do- live in countries where they have the right to say what they want, and healthy society has the right to ignore them, listen to them, or if they go too far, to make sure there are consequences for what they say.

This.
It really is that simple.

What if people main both? You can have two Mains you know, dividing your time equally between factions.

But the thing is, People are so easy to sell outrage here that nobody actually stops and looks at facts, just what they get told. The Alliance actually have stronger racials these days (Check out Mag’har and Nightborne if you want to see some truly dire racials :stuck_out_tongue: ) Horde racials get nerfed all the time, so do Alliance ones, but at the end of the day the problem is these people trying to gimp the system, who then encourage others to do the same, and you end up with this state where everyone has this bizarre impression that Horde racials are better, even when they aren’t, and it does become harder for Alliance.

Thing is, that isn’t Blizzard being Horde biased. The Racials are ever so slightly biased towards Alliance. It’s us players who made this problem.

Look at the precise article this is all about. There was a game mechanic that gave a clear and unfair advantage to one particular race. What happens? A whole Guild race changes to Dwarves to exploit that advantage. Where’s the faction loyalty in that? Do you think they’ll stick around when there is a boss mechanic that slightly favours Blood Elves say, or Tauren? These people don’t have any Faction loyalty, they simply do not care about anything apart from min-maxing and trying to bork the system.

That is figuratively like someone who supports a football team, but if another football team comes higher in the League, supports them instead, until a different team comes higher in the League, when they change to that one.

Should Blizzard be catering to that market?

Ideally no it should not. And it doesn’t.

The difference is, some people are easily swayed by league tables and -will- change who they support, based on which allows them to gimp the system.

In fact the football team example is a good one, because consider this.

Scenario a) There is a perception that Horde have better racials, pundits say so, so people flock to Horde, Streamers feign outrage (Because that makes them money) and as a result more and more people flock to Horde. As a result, Alliance Raiders find it harder to put together a good team. The game suffers as a result.

Scenario b) Football team X wins the Football League, all the fairweather fans of team Y start supporting team X instead, team X as a result gets better ticket sales, more revenue and can continue to buy better and better players, ensuring that they keep winning and more people support them.

Now in scenario b) who is to blame? The Football League, or those people who ditched Team Y for Team X?

Well, thank you, and the feeling is mutual. Anyone can see from my stuff (although I am in my RP kit on the armoury right now, Yes, yes, I know my transmog looks -amazeballs- :stuck_out_tongue: ) that I don’t massively raid, in fact I haven’t even touched anything this Expac, But I do know a lot of people heavily into the Raiding scene, and that’s where I am kind of getting it from, They’re cussing out the big raiding guilds for deserting factions at the drop of a hat, not cussing out Blizz.

But I am open to the idea that I am wrong.

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Yes it is. Why? Because after a few days of a horde raiding guild went Alliance they decided to nerf the racials of the dwarfs.

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Do you seriously think that is why they nerfed the racials? Couldn’t be anything to do with them borking the system. So why nerf the Kyrian Vial as well then? How does that fit with your theory?

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the irony is so solid I could cut steel with it

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This take is so hilariously bad I think it’s time to close the entire forums

just to contain this.

Ok here is where you are missing the picture, yes the Alliance has the better racilas right now dps wise, i fact i believe the most recent sim was Void elves on top, however the thing that really matters is utility when it comes to racials. Goblin jump, Arcane torent and Voodoo shufle were the preferable racials becasue they cheesed certain mechanics in their respective fights, also Night elves are the top pick for M+ because Shadowmeld completly breaks M+ because of its ability to drop agro and skip packs. Also it isnt gimping the system altough cheese it is clever to use neche aspects of the game to get an advantage, the issue is they are no longer neche and the advantage is no small thing due to the complexity of fights and mechanics.

Hard to agree here after BfA (not story wise) and after the fact that after so many times were the horde racial was the “exploit” the time they decided to act on it is when for once the alliance ones were going to be the stronger pick. And again its not about the dmg but the utility.

Look the day i start maining Horde is the day I stop playing the game but its getting really hard to stay on the sincking ship, guild recruitment is way harder even on high populated servers like Ravencrest, its so frustrating to have to fill in numbers because players are leaving and the retantion rate is lower than the decrease.

No but its somewhat of a start or a bandaid if you will. The only true way to fix the issue is cross faction play but we are never getting that. I mean most people will flock to where the competative scene is, especially during the release of a new expansion, maybe just maybe some of the ones that do decide to roll Alliance will stick.

Thats why races shouldn’t have ANY combat benefit racials at all…

But acti-blizz makes the call.

You may be one of the most pathetic individuals I have ever encountered :laughing:

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Man, I was kinda looking forward to seeing a raid of Dwarves beating the crap out of a bunch of vampires.

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applying negative connotations to a sexual orientation and using it as an insult is.
also please do report the guild name, i give less cares about it than i do about blood elf posts

Hey guys remember how OP mechagnome racials were so the raiding guilds faction changed to raid as mechagnomes but then Blizzard nerfed them?

Alliance racials will never be stronger than Horde’s, so watch dwarf racial get hammered.

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I kinda feel like that blizzard’s a joke atm they refuses to give humans better racials. I hope that either in or after shadowlands i can play as an Angel ^^

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It’s like sticking a nail through my foot before I enter a race. Why would I do that?

I’m not saying your at a disadvantage gameplay wise but man, as a faction you’ve attracted more than your fair share of whiny defeatists.

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Then why don’t you help The Alliance by surgesting it to blizzard that they needs to stop being a horde favorism?

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when u could hit any race with a meaning racial and go for dwarf which genuinely has a niché racial :weary:

Because it’s not horde favouritism. It’s a legitimate balance change.

You’re so biased you legit even can’t look at stuff objectively.

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This change isn’t about Horde bias, its more about making the mechanics more equal for those who want to play their favourite race or chosen covenant.

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Woah there, you accidentally posted that from your alliance character!

:stuck_out_tongue:

Oh no, my bad!