Dude , go try STV event and see for yourself 
Or AB. Second you engage something your best bet is to kill something before the dots and nuke kills you.
You cant restealth with dots/bleeds etc.
And im 97 % sure I know my class better then you will ever know yours.
How is retail PvP like arena noob friendly. PvP in retail is literally ridiculous. You need to spend hours in game learning counters to classes/specs. That’s literally the worst advice for someone wanting to PvP I’ve ever seen.
for some even retail pvp is hard :>
I doubt that, you’re clearly getting owned out there. Getting yourself in bad positions and blaming it on the class, that should be king in picking the their fights.
For the knowing the class better part, i highly doubt that. Since even back in 2005/2006 i’ve had about 3000-4000hours into rogue, prolly already knew it better back then than you do now :'D
I get your frustration, but rogue is not meant to be played like bruiser. This stealth is for a reason, out of it rogue is very squishy, which is fair enough. Also rogue is not for mass fights, nor good for big team fights. Lets say it is for special missions. You have to be patient and play dirty. Rogue is not most OP pvp class, and cannot beat everything in 1v1, but it have a big potential to outplay opponents, or attack them when they are in disadvantage.
In Battlegrounds: you have to avoid mass fights unless when have no better option like interrupting the flag caping etc. You have to avoid high armor classes/specs, not because you cannot kill em, but because it is not most-effective, instead attack clothies and low defense ones, you have to kill fast, because you are not durable. In many cases avoiding and escaping from fight that you are losing or against something that counters you is better than getting killed. In short: to play rogue you have to think like rogue, not like honorable warrior, if this style do not suits you, better play another melee class. Rogue is in good place at pvp. Only thing that rogue needs is Cloak of shadows, it is for sure.
Rogues need help in pvp for sure. First thing, they need Cloak fo shadows asap. Then backstab runes to be buffed to hit harder then brain dead mutilate. Then and only then rogues will be playable
Good for you , ur still tops blue parser. Point here is , when u played rogue there wos no lvl 5 trinket for sap.
Every class didnt have A dot like they do now. Hunters didnt have trap launcher. Shammys couldnt touch you.
Most classes are running tank Runes for extra hp lifedrain and we got dispersion.
With 20-30 % extra hp your cant burst in 6-8 sec and Vanish.
Go play a rogue now inside ab or STV event. You will know fast What I mean!
Oh Yeah and pve dmg is A joke right now aswell , only class that brings nothing to the raid apart from dmg and kick.
And guess What we are nr 9 there
Rogue not only is at a disadvantage in group PvP, but also in PVE. Who searches for a rogue to join a raid group for gnomeregan? Noone. Warlock tanks do more damage than rogues. Ferals do a similar amount of damage as rogues in raids AND bring everyone windfury. Shadow priests do a similar damage as rogues and can heal their group.
Rogues bring literally zero benefit to their group. All other classes got some aoe and shine in any dungeon where you can pull more than one mob (all of the dungeons). Rogues are the only class that do not bring their group any benefit. Now paladins can also kick (+buff + heal + dmg). So why take a rogue?
When I go to STV and find a ranged group, I watch them stealthed how they kill one opponent after another. Never made so many blood coins in such a short time. Then I try to participate, unstealth and get killed.
I always bring a rogue to raids. They can kick and deal decent damage. Sure, melees overall are dealing less now but that’s what it is. Plus bringing a rogue (and a varied array of classes) allows loot to be better distributed.
i got 1k coins in 2 events solo the day i hit 40 on my rogue, stv is not so bad. i did it as 0/31 combat as well, and just opened on scrubs with bf+adrena+envenom, was super fun
people bring me in raids all the time as maintank rogue, we are real pumpers that also have 5k hp if geared properly. a warlock tank might do more dmg if he goes full greedy destro talents, but a rogue going envenom as tank can pump too, and if im doing 300ish dps as tank, the dps need to do 600+ to out threat me
M8 i did the same , Thats before the meta skifted to fighting around the blood guy
people who think PvE performance/logs are good to validate arguments for pvp are the dumbest people alive. especially with gnomeregan being a snooze fest for melee and barely any responsibilities + rogues rotation is literally muti spam to upkeep Slice and Dice and if Slice is up Envenom.
Bro tanking is easy in gnome apart from last boss. With shammy best threat building on solo bosses.
Issue with rogue tank is on last boss is if you are offtanking and are about taunt boss when you are swapping. Rolling with the punches aint up so you lose 30 % and bad rng can Get you globaled.
Ofc you use evasion there , but the flaw with rogue tanking is you can stand there with 60 % avoidance not taking any damage and then you Get hit for 1800. Healers Get A heart attack every time.
Btw you Are calling those guys you raid with pumpers, if those are pumpers with an ele shammy beeing top dps with under 300 dps then I dont know 
This has to be the worst Rogue EU / NA right? He actually thinks Rogue is unplayable in PvP. Plays on a PvE server. Thinks PvE logs hold any merit in PvP.
We found him guys.
Why would they look for one when dozens will message any time they post in the LFG? It’s an oversaturated class.
527+116+379+520+121-10 =1653 hp.
Everyone casually glossing over the fact this guy is running around in 1.6k hp with the bloodmoon buff active.
Since the event grants 30% hp, his base unbuffed hp is somewhere around 1271~.
That alone should be proof enough of the clownery being showcased.
Haha , atleast im good at something. 
You on the other hand
How much hp do you actually have (unbuffed) in your pvp gear? Really curious
2.6! Could had have 3.6 wouldnt had helped either way with this damage coming out since i need to go close and personal