“cant kill tanks in a stunlock” is your complaint? Really? the dude made to withstand a raidboss doesnt die easily, who woulda thunk
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I don’t understand this attitude. PvE is easy. I agree. However, you’re delusional when trying to act like PvP is the pinnacle of skill in classic.
It’s who’s rune is most broken and can one shot. 0 skill involved. It’s just as basic tbh.
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Yes and that’s exactly why they need to balance runes around PVP lmao.
rogues are strong 1v1 vs most classes (not all) but total garbage in any other situation.
they will also be garbage 1v1 when everyone has their tier 2 PvP trinket.
nobody wants a rogue in PvE.
L2P.
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okay FoTM player.
thats hilarious, they still get back to CC locking you down even with trinket, Blind and Gauge exist.
this troll is for real lmfao, this entire post of you screams skill issue.
Crying on the forums wont save you from rogue, but learning the game will. Reading your QQs feels like you have skill issue
Ironic coming from a rogue player, you guys still QQ for SP and Boomie nerfs, even Warlock nerfs, yet are overtuned yourselves.
skill issue mate. rogue are trash tier atm, they will surely get buffed soon since they outperform in PVE AND PVP
skill issue on your end, rogues are S tier, too bad you “cry” over rogue being “bad”.
How is rouge trashtier if its in the dead middle of the pack in PVE? What are the specs below it then?
Its the best or 2nd best melee, casters are overperforming in PVE rn.
Is rouge trashtier in PVP? Nah, and never will be. Even if they straight-out halved muti damage and doubled the energy cost, that wouldn’t happen.
Noone wants a rogue in PVE because there’s 50 of them wherever you look and they bring nothing to the raid utility wise. Every 2nd pug Raidleader is a rogue, course he doesn’t bring you. All the roguespots in my guild are taken aswell.
They need to disable runes in PvP.
I second this : disable all runes in pvp, then rogues can be OK again
Rogues in SOD feel worse then in Era/TBC/WOTlk i deleted SOD client was rly dissapointed by rogues state, they feel damn bad, when u 1v1 vs someone good and he got cds vs U dont have trinket/blind/vanish, better sit in stealth few more mins just to be sure.
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What does this even mean, are you upset someone else can win against a rogue with skill and a cd advantage?
What? Do you expect to autowin in a no cds stunlock every single time?
Vanish without cloak of shadows is useless in group PvP.
about your quotes:
1.- not like high armor in Gnomeregan affected melee hunters…Ok we will blame it.
2.- other classes have interupts and noone yet invited me in raid because i bring expose armor…but w8 they dont even answer me when i ask to join, do we play the same game?
3.-how raid would change in a way, that it will affect only our dps, we are only melee?
4.Blind cost 30 energy, Gauge can be parryed, dodged and cost 45 energy, If rogue wins against you using those tools, that mean you are outplayed.
5.-for curent spell dot meta, yes rogue need buff for pve and cloak of shadows for pvp.
As rogue i cannot say that it is OP, we kill mostly because have a opener and plan ahead, stealth helps. If we are caught out of stealth we squishy and die near instantly.
As long as rogue have stealth and CC i will kill every bad player, no mater how big of a nerf i get.
Rogues are strong, in base assaults, 1v1 but it is great it is 1 area where they excel, if they are stunned during the opener they are dead. The problem is casters in PVP.
I really dont know if I am so terrible player that I started to loosing so many AB as paladin or paladin are completely useless compared to shamans.
Warriors, Ret Paladins, MM hunters, Enhance Shamans are also affected by armor, your point being?
Why would you invite a ret over rogue? They literally give up an entire rune for interrupt and only bring blessings, which do not change much of the damage output. You compete with Shamans/Warriors with kicks, easy raid inv tbh.
Might wanna consider doing your own pug groups at this point.
Armor changes like the one that is dropping soon?
Those are normal responses to a stun resist OR trinket, there’s no outplaying with those tools, it is simply
get a load of this BS, literally plays the best pvp class bar none and complains about dots.
fixed that for you.
ok, will say it simple because it seems you did not understand, but arguing.
If high armor in Gnomeregan affects all melee, how melee hunter is top melee DPS?
Noone inviting rogues to raid, because low dmg and no raid utility, and kicking in Gnomeregan is not mandatory, can be covered, there is not interupt fight like was in BFD. Only option to raid Gnomeregan as rogue is to make my own raid, well i do not like that and will not gona do it, rather will skip it.
And you can ask all those who LFM ret paly on pugs, why they do it, rogue has better interupt etc.
Finaly, play rogue yourself, then come again to tell us what it is.
Rogue will be buffed, not nerfed, just watch.
Side note: if they nerf Muti, we will use backstab, same dmg, not a big deal.
blizz didnt test anything so theres your answer.
enjoy wiping on thermaplugg p3.
currently in SM grinding that out, but PvP you play a top class and have 0 rights to complain. PvE you have your buff already coming.
you will get nerfed in PvP, and everyone will enjoy it, the rogue tears.