A double crit mutilate literally hits less than raptor strike lmao. No one is getting ambushed for 980 are we just making up numbers now?
If they fix it then people would just cry about eviscerate instead. People will always cry about rogues whether they are good or bad merely due to the nature of being CD-based. It feels âunfairâ to die in a stun, even though most other classes are way more OP than rogues right now for example I canât think of a single class that doesnât have a frequently used instant ability that hits harder than mutilate or eviscerate.
Look whoâs here, the troll rogue thinking rogue needs CoS. Raptor strike is a different issue and should be addressed as well, but rogues Mutilates being 40energy, 2cp, and spamming 500 damage in total is completely bollocks.
Not really, at least Eviscerate needs 5CPs to be useful, which isnât even used because of Muti hitting literally harder than a 5CPs ability and many other abilites. It is way more consistent damage.
Nah the unfair part about rogue here is the mere fact you clowns get a ranged stun/slow on 20y, shadowstep 25y and hard hitting mutilates for 40energy and gain 2cp out of it.
All of these abilities literally allow you to get away with not burning CDs.
Peoples are crying, about not beeing the best dps class in this new gnome raid, or are thinking, their class isnt viable, crazy isnt it?!
yeah 1850 was nothing, the inflation in wotlk was really high, i got really fast to 2.450 mmr, and i had only honor gear, the ulduar 10 man weapon from the ++ dungeon, and off parts from the auctionhouse, so i dont know what peoples are doing with full raid/bis gear, especially when a season is inflated like this.
i think nobody on the forum is at this level, but close to everyone acts as if they were
Sorry, I guess I just don´t know how to play a rogue. Or maybe it´s the gear? I still didn´t go Gnomeregan and have most items from BFD.
Against hunters - no chance, the pet alone can kill me with enrage within seconds
Tank warlocks - just absolutely no chance. Found one with 30 % hp and I still lost with health pot. I guess I totally suck.
Paladins - Nope, no chance, during the stun (hammer of justice) they get me from 100 % to 20 %. Then they still have bubble and what not.
I really don´t understand⌠So many people complain that rogues are too strong, but I suck against most classes. Can it really be just the gear that makes such a difference? Like, rogues are op if they have good gear, but if they don´t they easily get owned by classes with better gear? I mean EASILY. I don´t think I´m the most incompetent person in pvp, playing with a lot of keybinds etc. I use insignia within 0,5 s of fear etc⌠But against some classes there is simply no chance.
While everyone is complaining about rogues in case of 1 on 1 (I guess), during most other events rogues have massive disadvantages compared to almost any other class. In battlegrounds when there are so many enemies at once - ârogue, go for the priestâ. Yeah, I cheap shot and I´m nuked to death.
In Stranglethorn? What the heck? I run around, searching for a single target while most other classes hand out their dots like it´s candy. Priester dots me within 4 seconds, I loose 80 % of all my health until all dots have run out. Ranged classes get so much more blood so incredibly easily.
So maybe rogues with excellent gear are strong in some scenarios, but they still have a lot of problems. But maybe I just suck at the classâŚ
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Any player getting killed in 3 seconds by rogues is running around full dps gear with no stamina. Get your gear, optimise it for PvP aka stamina and stop crying geez
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Said rogueâs hard counter.
the amount of people defending rogues broken crap is beyond me but hey apparently they play the game right?
you could look at most rogue runes and say it is broken in one way
Lol, rogues dont have counters, perhaps warlock with suc but thatâs it. They can die to priests too but they kill the priests first, then they die because dots.
Tell me which class can do something like this:
https:/ /www. youtube. com/watch?v=WOPCYJs3r3g&t=1s
Rogues have ton of CC, Damage, defensives. Hell I even see rogues level 30+ killing 40 easily.
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watch this and reconsider: watch?v=A-haTcw-cPo
yes, i did here pretty high damage to the warrior however watch how tanky druid, hunter, paladin and EVEN PRIESTS ARE.
I did ambush for 800 maybe twice past 2 weeks into a mages. not once more. while priests consntaly SWD me for 700+, mages arcane blasting for 1k+, shamans lavabursting for 1.2k, and rogues have 0 protection against spell damage.
Warriors are destroying me with overpower, hamstring and execute.
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1v1 or max. 2v2/3v3 are literally the only situations in which rogues are viable at the moment, yet people donât stop complaining about them.
PvE? Medium Dps while bringing zero utility or buffs for the raid.
Tanking? Relying on RNG, no AoE threat â meme spec
Dungeons? Useless, because of zero AoE Abilites
Group PVP? Ineffective, because of the ranged meta and overall squishiness of the class
Go ahead and play battleground as leather where everyone have +30% hp. Where priest have dispersion. Warlocks is no target because all go meta. Hunters? They melee you to death. You are lucky to get 1 before you fall
The only thing a rogue does is sit and sap a person.
Outside of battlegrounds they are overtuned I agree.
Ill actually test is with full cancer Ambush build on wednesday vs plate tanks/ret/and other warriors. 