"One similarity between night elves, high elves, and blood elves has only recently come about. The night elves sacrificed their immortality and much of their power at the end of the Third War. Thus, all elves are now mortal and have comparable lifespans that can extend as long as several thousand years. "
From the Warcraft Encyclopedia , which is still a current canon source…Or at least Elven ages have not been retconned, unlike Lorash Sunbeam’s claim, where Malfuion says to Lorash in their scrap that the Kaldorei would never attack the Sin’dorei, the author later saying, they had made a mistake.
To be fair, it was more skirmishing until the Troll Wars which was all out warfare for (decades?) a long time until the Amani Empire got broken by the combined might of the Empire of Arathor and Kingdom of Quel’thalas!
After that it went back to skirmishes and gorilla warfare!
In the vast majority of cases no. It’s… erh… standard RP etiquette to never relate yourself to a major lore character.
However, in certain cases I think it’s acceptable if there is context and nuance. For example I use to RP a tauren that was some relation to Hamuul Runetotem (The Arch Druid among the Tauren) because he is the head of the Runetotem tribe, and tribes are rather familial. So in that context, he could be a distant great-nephew. For most that would not be a problem at all.
My character Cailen has Terenas as his middle name, after Terenas Menethil. The reason being Cailen’s late grandfather was one of his knights in his court. So Terenas’ name was given to Cailen as a sort of honorific to the monarch. There are grounds for this in real-life middle ages culture.
Several thousand years. You were talking about elves in their 2000s and 3000s.
The author didn’t say Lorash’s age was a mistake. What was the mistake is that the night elves hadn’t never attacked the blood elves before - as we see in game, they do just that in Eversong and the Ghostlands. So Lorash’s age is still canon, like it or not.
It doesn’t fit with no one else this old existing in Quel’Thalas. Or Shadowtwili’s point of this making the current Elves a second generation away from Night Elves.
In 7,000 years of history they had 4 kings and 1 prince; Anasterian was the great-grandson of Dath’Remar. If Lorash is correct, then how is it possible that a great-grandson - rather than a son or grandson - was the ruling monarch during the fall? All the Sunstriders would have to die very early for that to somehow happen.
Thalassian Elves supposedly living as long as their kingdom has been founded just creates all kinds of weird inconsistencies.
The night elf empire lasted… what 15.000 years? Malfurion, Illidan and Tyrande where all around 3000 years old or something and still "young"ish. That means there’s like at most 4 generations between the rise and the fall of the empire.
Same with how Azshara ruled the longest of all Kings and Queens, but Blizzard admitted that there have been multiple kings and/or queens before
Hate that Blizzard condensed the timeline. In the old lore there used to be around 30 years or so between the First and Second War (consolidating, building up armed forces, unifying the various kingdoms, clans etc) and the night elf empire was (suggested at least) to have lasted much, much longer (and Malfurion was a middle-aged scholar-turned-druid that could go one-on-one against Azshara in a magical battle that destabalised the well and cause the Sundering!)
Quel’Thalas wasn’t exactly a peaceful place until after the Troll Wars. How is it possible? Dath’Remar could have been very old and not ruled for long. His child or grandchild might have faced death at the hands of the trolls.
It’s not like most of the royals we see in game waited until they were in their 50s, 60s and even 70s to have children sometimes. Varian is the youngest king by several decades to have an heir.
The First and Second Wars have always had only a few years between them. It’s Blizzard’s only way of including characters that might have otherwise grown too old or passed away due to age.
Possible but considering that’s never chronicled, I would conclude that it’s unlikely. The death of a king is a big and traumatic thing so it would be weird not to record this fact somewhere.
That explains births but not deaths.
Overall, I just firmly disagree with the notion that Lorash’s age somehow fits in with the rest of what we know about Thalassian Elves. How is it even possible that he is the only one to live to this age? How does he look fit and able at this age despite Anasterian being so old and frail?
Yeah. I actually think we currently have the largest gap between them in that the First War now ends in year 4, so the orcs spend a year building up their strength and constructing a navy while the Alliance forms in Lordaeron before they invade in year 5.
We don’t even know their names, we don’t know when or for how long they reigned, there’s lots of things that would have been very likely to be recorded in this universe that we don’t know of.
He isn’t? We’ve had more than one elf referred to as being an elder. If he is now this old, it stands to say they would be as old, if not older.
He didn’t have the extra weight and stress of ruling a kingdom on his shoulders and Anasterian’s frailty isn’t something Sylvanas even noticed until after she had been turned into a banshee. Anasterian wasn’t a slouch either, though.
Anasterian’s age hasn’t been mentioned since Rise of the Lich King was released in 2009, so he could be aged up as well without it affecting the lore much.
Why do none of Stormwind’s refugees have stories of their flight from the city’s fall during the First War, why are there so few Lordaeronians, Gilneans, Stromic and Alteraci with stories of the fall of their kingdoms? Why do so few people talk about the years between the Second and the Third Wars or the millennia of peace the night elves had between the War of the Satyr and the Third War?
It’s not important to the main story. It’s fluff Blizzard hasn’t cared for before and never will.
And, ultimately, it’s not for us to change. This is what Blizz has written and until they correct it or more recent opposing information comes out this is simply the way of things in the Warcraft setting.
It goes together. The author made Lorash that old because he wanted him to have a personal grudge against the Kaldorei (hence having seen the exile) and he forgot about the BC events much closer. The mistake on one part of this lead to a mistake in all; Lorash wasn’t made that old randomly for the fun, it was for the specific reason that was got wrong… And so, irrelevant.
(Also Blizzard are terribles at their own lore, no one’s surprised.)
