"Rose tinted glasses"

WoW Classic WoW Classic General Discussion
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If you boosted for gold, it’s your fault.
If you paid for boosting, it’s your fault.
If you care about parses and numbers, it’s your fault.
If you care more about the excel sheets than the World, of Warcraft, it’s your fault.
If you’re constantly theorycrafting and seeing the game as a job, it’s your fault.
If you are in the world buff meta, it’s your fault.

If levelling is a chore to you, if travelling is too much, you should’ve stuck to retail.
This game isn’t cut out for you.
People that go into TBC with this mindset will ruin TBC the same way classic got ruined.
People see their characters more of a status symbol.

Maybe if you saw this game as the beauty it was presented as, an adventure game, you wouldn’t of got bored.
But instead you minmax the fun out of everything.

Stop taking a 17 year old game so seriously.
Stop trying to “relive your childhood but better this time”.
To all the people that say “yeah the game seemed better when I was younger”, it’s because younger you probably didn’t care about theorycrafting, minmaxing and all that crap.

I can’t believe people never pointed this out. “Yeah the game feels different now compared to when I was a teen or kid”. Gee really? You never wondered why you enjoyed the game more as a kid compared when you approach it like this?

Sodapoppin complained about “retail being so easy, you could level to 100 within A DAY…!!!”
But then he does exactly the same on classic. Does dungeons over and over to reach level 60, even though he whined about “retail not having any adventure compared to classic”, then he quits in phase 2 lmao.

Preach milked how “good vanilla was”. “How much of a journey and adventure the game was”. Levels the exact same, “most efficient way” to get to 60 asap, then quits within phase 2 aswell.

What kind of hypocrites are these people?

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To be fair all this stuff happened in the OG game too. It’s just been extrapolated out over the masses due to information sharing.

The main issue is still the fact the game is unmoderated, and it will continue to be the main issue.

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Playing WoW as a streamer makes a big difference. I assume that Sodapoppin just quit classic wow as a streamer and sill plays in private.

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classic’s main problem was that it wasn’t a new game, it was over a decade old and thus, everything there was and is to be learnt about it has already been learnt.

If you designed a new game 90% like classic wow today (with some of the blemishes removed like the sh*tty pvp system, replace with tbc system) then the game would probably suffer much less from these player-driven problems.

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People also forget that these forum complainers are a loud minority. The majority of players are happy playing the game. Just look on the number of comments and views, its very tiny compared to the active player base.

There are a lot of people like me who never played original classic>TBC>WOTLK, and I have been having a blast in classic and can’t wait for TBC. For me this is like a new game.

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Can’t argue with any of that. I agree with pretty-much everything you wrote.

I wonder if any of these ‘Youtube influencers’ are aware of the amount of damage they did? Probably not.

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Well, I’m happy that minmaxing is not as common today as it was back then.

In early vanilla, people indeed were still figuring out things and it was fun, but in late vanilla and TBC, there was the era of meta, your guild wouldn’t let you in raid if you didn’t have the talents they wanted you to have, etc. Then in TBC came GearScore.

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Yeah i have seen many Ret paladins, Boomkins, Shadowpriests in classic raids from MC to Naxx. There are plenty of raids/guilds that are very casual friendly in that sense.

The parse, dmg meter fanatics and speedrunners are a small minority but obviously a loud one because they need to show others how cool they are like it’s the main reason they play the game like this.

In that sense - play the game like you want and find the right players to play with. A thing about the internet is, that you will always find like minded players…

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Not me dude, it ain’t been as exciting (how could it be?) but I’ve enjoyed it way more than the first time. Back in the day I could do 13 hour wow shifts straight from work, can’t do that now but I really do value the time I do have.

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I don’t believe he quit over the leveling, since he’s a streamer that rolled on a PvP realm… people would just powerlevel OVER him just to grief him.

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Preach said multiple times before classic release that he would never ever touch classic, he had fond memories but it would not be a game he would enjoy. Then he changed his mind and tried it out, got to 60 and did mc/ony then called it. He also never talked bad about retail, he play it relatively hardcore.

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They’re mostly money hungry and hyped up YouTube sl*ts who perhaps one day in the distant past felt the way they claim they do but eventually got their ego in the mix and had to keep up appearances by no lifing WoW to the extremes so that their Twitch viewers keep them in high regard, whatever that may mean.

And about the first part of your post, yes you’re right. The fun of the game was mostly because I myself didn’t know jack about the game and so everything was fresh, fun and exciting. On my first character back in '05 I didn’t even know about the significance of talents until level 30 - which took me literal months to even achieve lol.

All in all, I personally do not enjoy watching these super nerds talk about WoW, and I’d really love to see fresh realms be released from phase 1. Perhaps with some changes, like no world buffs or something; I could live with that.

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Or like me, who actually played Vanilla, TBC, Wrath and then the next expansions with mounting frustrations and sorrow. And now actually are reliving those good old days. I still fool around, have a zillion alts at around level 24, enjoy the game big time, am stone-broke from sending mats from A to B to C to level professions instead of playing the AH. I still love the game, still enjoy the views, still love fighting those bears, murlocs … whatever.
Still using Blizz’s UI, Still not looking up quests in Wowhead, still not watching youtubers … never understood why it was fun watching others play I want to spend my time playing not watching others do it for me?
Just let me stay in the Classic Era server, please :slight_smile:

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Amen!

Preach it my friend, preach it!

I am in precisely the same mindset as you, and play in the same way - even to the extent of being broke because I send mats between alts and don’t play the AH.

My one L60 doesn’t have an epic mount as I simply can’t afford one, and I don’t even care. I never had one in Vanilla either, and for me Classic is a recapture of my original Vanilla experience. So far it’s been weirdly similar in most respects, with me even joining a similar kind of guild, and having pretty-much the same items and equipment as I had back then, including a similar amount of gold.

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See i keep hearing this " Happened in original vanilla" But i spent many hours in Cities back in those days. I never saw WTS boost spam. WTS GDKP run.

WTS STOCKADES ,SM , MARA , ZF , ZG farm run. It never happened seriously i’m being 100% srs just never ever happened. I was on 3 highest pop realms from Vanilla to cata. Sure i saw gold selling. But boosting just never happened on trade chat or LFG chat.

I’ve got pretty good memory about many things , never saw them. So this " it always happened" i press the X button for Doubt

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what does i press the x button for doubt mean? anyway…

No it never got spammed in world or trade. No one said it did.

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Comes from the game L,A Noire , detective game.

You question suspects , they tell you stuff , X doubted what they were telling you.

Come on dude multi million selling award game , press X for doubt is a popular meme for about 8 years now.

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Sorry mate im too busy being being a dad gamer that shines in MMO’s to know about controller based games and memes. I’ll ask my son if he gets your joke.

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Its not even a joke, just a meme…

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It’s on pc aswel … it came out twice , remastered version 2 years ago …