If you don’t like the project, just move on. No one is forcing you on it and if someone does, its an issue of that player.
Idea of this project here, on the forums, is to spread awareness about it. Those who like or support the idea, can join and contribute. Those who don’t - don’t. It’s simple as that.
So far it looks merely that you don’t like this project, based on your view/opinion/previous experience, so you bash against it for what reason? You voiced your concerns, fair enough, but it doesn’t mean it’ll just shut down. It’s been explained multiple times already of why and what.
This is a worrying statement tbh. You’re here hoping to unleash a community driven project that deals with power over other RPers and with zero oversight to people who might abuse it? Classess really.
I don’t like the project, nor the way it is run and i’ll be steering clear of the aforementioned guilds. Amusing that the Lion’s Roar seems to have a bad rap-sheet and not just from my own interaction with the GL of it.
There’s been more than just me saying they don’t find the project to be of benefit, i’m just the only person bored enough to debate it with you, so please, try again.
Public forum - a place where the public can voice their thoughts. If you don’t like the idea, don’t post on it?
I don’t remember asking you to?
It’s been explained, but not clearly and it seems nobody is leading it or willing to stand up and say that they are the one to head to with concerns when this eventually goes chesticles up
It mostly downs to IC / OOC interaction. If a law is broken and a guard states on what basis character is being detained, if person is okay with that, they just go with it. Then a character is brought into cells, a bit of conversation to learn who this character is (standard interrogation basically) and then a guard OOCly asks the player if all is good and informs them that “Okay, so you can have your character fined, shamed, put into community service or a night in the cells” (Something between those lines) and then player replies if that’s okay with them or not.
So when stuff like this is arranged on an OOC level, RP proceeds according to this OOC agreement. Of course, there might be some cases when people come to disagreement hence NPC court system/justification. But so far, we’ve been slowly integrating this idea and talking with criminal roleplayers and it worked out very well. I hope this answers your question!
Maybe try to see it this way:
The King’s Footmen, like any other (decent) guard guild that ever existed, has a set of rules to ensure that their members act with a certain consistency. This set of rules exists, whether it is public or not.
This project basically does three things:
a) It makes the set of rules public for others to know what to expect when bringing their crime RP to the King’s Footmen, if they want.
b) It lets others weigh in with suggestions, opinions, and so on, if they want.
c) It allows other guards to follow the same set of rules, if they want.
The important part here is the ‘if they want’ part. It’s not forced on anyone. The lawbook will likely never ever even come up for you if you don’t decide to specifically bring your crime RP to the King’s Footmen. I know at least that it will never come up when interacting with anyone from the Amber Foundation - we are not guards, after all.
So I feel like you steering clear of all the guilds that have provided any input just… doesn’t actually accomplish anything? But you do you, of course.
What I would suggest is steering clear of this thread if you so dislike it, and perhaps using your time in a more productive manner.
A project needs a leader. That’s just… how can you have NO leader? What happens when people have conflicting ideas within the discord about something? What happenes when a disagreement needs to be solved? Who do you raise concerns and questions to?
Actually, I give up. I have no intention of being part of this silly project, i’ll just enjoy watching people learn valuable lessons I suppose
Okay… What about if I was in Stormwind, I cry out for guards to stop someone and I don’t get the guards I want?
I’m not going to cry out “Guards, I need help! (King’s Footmen, ignore this please)”.
It sounds like what you’re worrying about is that the guards all use different sets of rules.
In that case I’ll have to tell you: That is how it is. But it is actually an argument for a community law book, because it provides an avenue for everyone using the same rules.
Issue one - If I don’t want to interact with them because of this outlandish Law Book, then what? If my guild of petty criminals wants to interact with guards but not on these terms, are we left with no guards at all then? Currently, as far as i’m aware, aside from guildless guard RPers, the KFM are the only active guard guild.
This is fair enough.
But… it is? There will be RPers who WILL force this on people - unwittingly or otherwise.
“If you don’t decide to bring your RP the only active, substancial Guard Guild” - which by the way doesn’t work because other RPers will often fetch the most well known guard guild to any crime they come across after a while. Then what?
Didn’t ask, don’t tell me how to spend my time, thanks