S1 progression system for M+ has been a disaster

[Mizkafrost-twisting-nether]

@Nellja-magtheridon

Ask yourself, if Challenger’s Peril was replaced with Necrotic, OG Expolisve or Bolstering, would more keys be timed?

You are right, probably there will not be more keys timed. Adding an extra mechanic will definitely have a negative impact on the success rate. After this discussion i don’t believe Challenger’s Peril should be replaced, it should be removed. It’s an exaggerated punishment, on top of the time you spend releasing and running/reviving the group. Moreover, it encourages bad behavior. There is no fun in being punished to that extent.

I am excited about the crest changes. I think they are great and am really curious if they will make M+ more accessible to more players and less time-consuming than before.
It is great to see the development team taking a step in the right direction.
I hope removing Challenger’s Peril and overhauling the Vault will be the next steps.

[Nellja-magtheridon]

@Mizkafrost-twisting-nether

After this discussion i don’t believe Challenger’s Peril should be replaced, it should be removed.

Hmmm, interesting take. But know who will be running +7 and +8? You just moved Hero track drops to +9 and Gilded Crests to 10+.

@Mizkafrost-twisting-nether

I hope removing Challenger’s Peril and overhauling the Vault will be the next steps.

I wouldn’t hold my breath for that, but each of us have our wishlist.

[Mizkafrost-twisting-nether]

@Nellja-magtheridon

Hmmm, interesting take. But know who will be running +7 and +8? You just moved Hero track drops to +9 and Gilded Crests to 10+.

I don’t think thats necessary either. The % increase is more then enough to keep the steps between the ranks interesting. 7 is for people who want hero gear drops and 8 for the people who are ready for gilded.

It is great to see we all have different wishlists, it keeps things interesting.