you are the majority faction with the added benefits of:
-> Less ganking in open world
-> Healthier economy
-> Easier group/raid finding
-> Easier Arena and BG premade finding
-> More social activies
-> Better racials for PVE and at least equal in PVP
Alliance
still insta queues but premading stripped away in AB/WSG/EOTS
Free rewards for WINNING Bgs (considering the terrible winrate of alliance this will be funny)
People won’t be encouraged since its a minor bonus that is outweight by the social benefits on horde side
Less open world ganking - Doubt it…Farm spots are still farm spots and the faction imbalance will do its thing. If 1000 more horde players are on your server then 500 can be in a BG and still 500 people can camp the sh*t out of you. Also flying mounts make open world ganking only a problem at farm spots which are always overcrowded.
Nothing to do with “Schadenfreude”. And here a quote for you from retail which basically sums up the situation in which we are heading with TBC:
“Originally it was a couple racial issues in previous expansions, but right now the racials are balanced and arguably the Alliance are more powerful but now the issue is the social dynamics and will need a social solution.”
From: BlizzConline 2021 World of Warcraft Q&A Recap
Search for that interview - It addresses the population issues in retail and how it spirals if its overlooked for too long.
New players are joining Horde. So much arena partners. WoW.
-still insta ques Alliance lets all Horde full BG groups to play with each other untill they get full team themselves. After that they wait for full Horde team to form. The less Alliace players are the slower this becomes, while Horde has instant queues. Alliance leaves to Horde for faster queues. Death spiral.
-less open world ganking The hype of first week of instant queues in down and Horde got used to it. Now they are upset about long honor grind (I wonder why Alliance didn’t cried about it, while having same or just slower queue speed) or about losing arena 5 times in a row. Guess where are they going for easy 3v1 wins?
-free rewards for playing bgs if these are rewards for winning BGs, the it will be fine I guess. Nothing as important as having large arena partners pool, stronges arena racials or any advantage in the dominated wPvP, but still a nice bonus for casual PvP player. If that reward is for participation only… RIP Alliance PvPers who gonna be put into team with PvE casual tourists seeking that reward. Alliance PvP players will get burned out often and reroll to Horde leaving less of them and more tourists in queue. Death spiral.
-people are encouraged to pick your faction with the extra rewards, leading to fewer people rerolling horde, helping the faction imbalance No amount of gold, honor or random trash item can balance advantages of being a Horde after HvH reintroduction. I am afraid loyal Alliance PvP players would face the reality that they need to reroll to Horde or to reroll to Alliance dominated PvP/PvE realm immediately or even quit until Wrath and Humans buff (that may not save the Alliance if Horde ratio goes beyond 20:80, making every PvP server a Flamelash or Herod 2.0)
That’s the same as saying horde have longer queues don’t like longer queues just leave it.
You still don’t grasp statistics and how world PvP effects the minor faction and what this change means.
I definitely think this is me for blizzard games it’s not the same company and they don’t have a clue what they are doing on retail or classic it’s not hard to see why they are losing massive amounts of subscriptions.
i’ve had more enjoyment in one week in FF14 than the whole tbcc expansion which was my favourite on the original version it’s an insult to even call this game TBC.
You want tbc retail anyways now you’ve got it, you will abandon this in couple weeks when you realise your Still stuck at 1k rating.
i won’t exactly miss you either.why even play tbcc and want the game to be changed this much what’s the point you clearly aren’t an og player retail already exists.
Great job Blizzard, reduce premade in Battleground, give Horde what we want (fast queue), and give Alliance a benefit . Everyone happy in my friend lists.
The only thing for alliance to play now either go on mega servers like Geh of firemaw or go to mono faction server like earthshaker. I hoped blizzard care about balance on their servers. But unfortunately it’s not. Medium servers balance ruins
Ah and he answered hahahha the troll (literally) I wanted to adress anyways.
From your post above:
Its 45 -55.
People on pve realms dont want world pvp, they still do bg:s.
Yes statistics very hard
For someone who states “statistics is very hard” your approach is not really “in-depth”. Faction imbalance is a server-wide problem. It has to be addressed on a server-by-server basis to keep balancing in tact. If one faction becomes to oppressive (and we have seen in in P2 of classic) the other will either stop playing the game or leave, because nobody wants to deal with frustration. So he was actually more accurate with pulling the PVP server data than the PVE server one. Why? Because people who roll for a PVP server are more likely intrested in PVP than those rolling a pve or even an rp-pve server. From horde vs alliance interaction pvp server metrics is also more important because on pve servers this interaction can just be turned off. I could also pull the PVP arena data from drustvar as a metric for PVP intereset on both sides. But funny that is actually totally in line with the PVP server metric of around 40-60.
On the other hand your clever approach would also not explain the long queue times for horde because from the outside point of few it looks “fairly” balanced overall. However PVP server metrics reflect the imbalance better and is in line with the actual queue times “feel” - And to make it understandble for you. 40:60 is a horrible balance both from a fairness standpoint and with regards to the bg queues. Again why? Because for every 3rd BG horde players have to wait a whole BG to finish before enough alliance players become available to play against them. And you know how long BGs can go. But it doesn’t stop there - When addressing a healthy state you actually have to check the specific server metrics and this shows that the overall data is scewed by one side server population both for horde and alliance side. Thus you have to create incentives for the underrepresented faction ON THAT SERVER may it be alliance or horde.
So stop trolling little shaman :^)
Your effort and hopes into bullying horde to reroll alliance on dead servers weren’t realistic anyways. If your server is dead just leave it.
Where did I bully the horde? I want improvements for the horde but not at the expense of the (heavily) underrepresented faction on the majority of TBC servers. And I don’t want people unwillingly to switch to horde to abandon their forged friendships. I just don’t want horde to be the go-to recommendationfor new players due to the statements I listed above. Blizzard ADMITED for retail that the current driving-factor for faction decision is the SOCIAL dynamic. And sadly without some downsides it is a mindless decision to go with the majority faction. You don’t have to like what I am saying but denying it won’t make you more right since history has already shown that my point is valid. It does not mean that horde queue times should be that long, but we need to create a driving factor to roll alliance otherwise we will end in retail. In classic the split between alliance beeing the better pve faction and horde beeing the proposed pvp one held faction imbalance somewhat stable on most servers - Now we see a clear shift.
If your server is dead just leave it.
But you just need your precious BG because elsewise you “can’t play the game”. Faction transfers are of course unbearable because you would need to leave your friends behind. But alliance players should pay 25$ and leave their server and all their friends behind and start all over.
Smelling a double standard.
Other than that we have no other statistic than it being 45% chance that player will choose alliance.
Untrue as this data might be scewed due to the benefits alliance had in classic.
How are alliance worse in arena then horde? Alliance players might be worse but you cannot say horde racials are op in arena because its so situational.
Forget about Gehennas as Alliance. When Horde will kill faction balance in smaller servers like Herod PvP US, and wPvP there would be dead, they start leaving as they did on Flamelash, for bigger 45:55 servers to throw balance there to the abyss. Gehennas is already 40:60 there is not hope for Alliance there.
No you can’t. I am staying Alliance until playing on last Alliance “dominated” realm becomes unbearable.
Then I will take faction change, finish Wrath content as a Horde if I have to and close my relations to Blizzard games.
I have game knowledge, and I know that warrior/druid is better on alliance since escape artist is huge for warriors in that comp as druids don’t have a magic dispel
I know that rogue comps are generally stronger on alliance early on in the game when resilience and hp levels are quite low (season 1, early season 2), since it means getting the opener on another rogue (or druid) with perception makes that much bigger of a difference, but once better gear is out and there is less volatility around getting the opener, perception no longer outweighs the horde alternatives
There is also an argument to be made for disc priests in season 1 favoring dwarf, since damage is very high compared to survivability right now, and dwarf priests get both stoneform and desperate prayer (and chastise) to help them live through the relatively high damage
For anything else, horde racials are just better though. Hardiness and blood fury are strong, war stomp and endurance are good, will of the forsaken is probably the strongest racial in the entire game, troll priests get hex of weakness and shadowguard which are both insanely strong for shadow, and even arcane torrent is pretty decent.
. Everyone happy in my friend lists.