San'layn not a race confirmed? I want an apology :)

[Quillestra-argent-dawn]

Back to business. Part 2.

@Quillestra-argent-dawn

Again, how can you be a San’layn and a Forsaken at the same time? These are not races, they are names of separate clans or whatever.

Yep, because I kept saying that San’layn is not a race but rather a sign of who you serve. Therefore, you can’t claim to be serving the Forsaken and the Scourge/Lich King at the same time. With our new evolving lore it seems like the San’layn’s power will be used for the greater good, much like the Val’kyr back in Cata+.

@Vixí-argent-dawn

this was a direct response to people telling you “DARKFALLEN IS FINE, SAN’LAYN IS NOT”. People kept getting confused because even when they were saying “Yes, you’re getting it” you kept arguing as if people were saying Darkfallen wasn’t okay.

Makes little sense. People were saying Undead non-DR elves are not ok, because the San’layn didn’t join the Horde in BfA. Period. No exceptions.

@Quillestra-argent-dawn

The San’layn is a word that has double-meaning depending on what you want to imply. It may refer for a specific group withing the Scourge or to that particular kind of vampiric elves.

I described how people use it. Some use the word San’layn to refer to all vampiric elves. That’s why I use the word Darkfallen or Undead Elves to avoid confusion, knowing how unstable lore is and how loosely people can use these terms. You yourself said it - I tried to avoid using the word “San’layn”, that’s right, because whenever this word appears it causes confusion and commotion.

@Vixí-argent-dawn

Here you were arguing because San’layn are also known as Darkfallen, then any Darkfallen could be a San’layn.

Excuse me, where? You are saying that if all San’layn are undead, then all undead are San’layn? What kind of nonsense is that? If all apples are fruits, then all fruits are apples? This is called Deductive and Inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning involves starting from specific premises and forming a general conclusion, while deductive reasoning involves using general premises to form a specific conclusion. All San’layn (for now, at least) are Darkfallen because they are former blood elves turned undead.

@Vixí-argent-dawn

people told you that this was because they were done before Darkfallen became an umbrella term.

That doesn’t contradict the fact that all current San’layn are Darkfallen aka Undead elves (see above).

@Vixí-argent-dawn

people kept trying to tell you “No, the issue is only San’layn, Darkfallen is fine” you kept rambling on how people should stop bullying Darkfallen

Let’s make up a real-life scenario. I am an Undead elf who is not a Dark Ranger who was raised alongside Sylvanas (because I am not a hunter). I’m asking people if they would accept the fact that I am an Undead non-DR elf who is not hostile to Horde/Alliance. They say no because that would mean I am a vicious San’layn of the Scourge and should join a villainous guild and plot how to harm their innocent characters. And what am I supposed to do then?