This may be a bug or it could be intended.
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Wouldn’t surprise me.
As we saw, Delves were way too lucrative compared to M+ in the beginning of the season. In that sense it was probably a mistake to lower it to begin with.
But we’ve seen it before that they re-implemented a previously fixed/changed thing, unintentionally. It happens. We’ll see.
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Bad change.
Not alot of people wants to do more than the 4 bountiful ones they get each week.
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I really believe is a bug otherwise this change is Intended to make people quit .
1 Run of t8 still gives 2 runed crests… t9-10 again no changes again 2 runed crests .
Basically you need 45 runs to cap the crests of an average of 10++ hours for the delve player.(You can cap with 4 to 6 dungeons of m+ )
The heroic gear-itemization from delves are the worst off.
I reached 11k versatility and switched the heroic pieces with champion …due the all pieces have Versatility .
The trinkets from Delves are the worst sim is on F grade ,( proc dmg is from 0.8% to 1.4% )
My heroic dungeon 583 ilvl trinket is better than 619 ilvl delve trinket*.
Same here, I see no point running delves after I spent the weekly 4 coffer keys. It could work with a higher number of obtainable coffer keys per week tho.
Watch its “popularity” plummet…
yep my guild had to do 8 8th delves for easy 616 vault gear first week
That’s the greatest alternative we’ve ever had if you don’t want to participate in M+. I genuinely think Delves will remain popular.
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At the end this pretty much remove the alt-friendliness philosophy in this expac.
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Why play the game then? Its like avg 40-50 mins the 4 run.
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Well I hope it is a bug, as I am already disinterested in running them.
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It’s likely a bug but knowing Blizzard, they’ll keep it and we’ll get hand wringing non apologies from blues telling us “we are aware of the issue and a hotfix will be implemented shortly”
AKA. “Yeah. We know. but we can’t be bothered to fix it. Do you like constantly being told you have earned those titles?”
Anyone. ANYONE who even for the slightest bit thought Blizzard would allow delves to even begin to be a threat to Mythic dungeon has clearly never spent much time on WoW.
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It’s not a bug because all 3 numbers changed to values that are not random. If it was 3, 4, 8 or 2, 4, 12 then one could say it was unintentional, but all 3 values increased by exactly 50% is not.
It’s an intentional change and, depending on the amount of backlash, they may revert it under the guise of “We listen to your feedback” or “This was an unintentional change”
If the values were lower then one could use the argument of it being an oversight, because it makes sense to reduce requirements when testing new content and settings to see the work before setting the “grindy” values.
Well they want to increase time-spend for people doing delves .
As a delve player i stop doing delves after 9 weeks .
Majority of the people already stop doing them. You can see this by some of the materials that are mostly exclusive from delve like profaned tinderbox.
The price from 490 gold 5 weeks ago has skyrocketed to 2.2k . This show actually a descrease. from 30k+ item auctioned, right now is at 5.7k that i logged now .
6x less item and 4/5x higher prices that goes as well with the population of players.
Basically this change doesn’t have any affect at all .
They aren’t increasing the runed crests that delves provides and i believe 2 runed crest for a 15 minutes is illogical for an time consume activity .
Aren’t they increasing the daily bountiful limit to 5 delves though? I figured this change was in part to reflect that.
It is not a change that I am particularly happy with though. It also doesn’t seem to be an alt friendly change either.
I have not seen this anywhere, but are they going to be increasing the weekly amount of coffer keys we get from the world event rewards?
So anyone who disagrees with this sentiment has never spent much time on WoW? … that’s not really an argument to use on a forum.
It is not only a threat, it already ruined the keys +2-+6 from start to finish. It rendered lower keys useless, it made heroic dungeons useless, it made the whole gearing progression clunky and close to disgusting.
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I am actually quite happy with the current gearing where you go some delves towards 590-600 ilvl and then M+ 
And when i start on +2 i actually get people in the groups who also want to play M+. Only in +7 and 8 you have to pay attention because somehow delve-players who only want to gear up instant get into those keys and dont know basic mechanics.
I just hope i do not need to do more delves for the vault. Especially for alts thats annoying.
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t11 will give Gilded Crests in S2, so that’s something:
Gilded Crests Available from Delves in The War Within Season 2 - Wowhead News
At the moment, the vault gives tokens for 45 runed crests for 8 events meaning that once you have a full set of t8 bountiful gear @ 610 there’s no need to do more than 4 weeklies and 4 bountiful delves to get your gear to 619. That’s less than two hours a week.
So basically the delves become pretty much an 1st 8-12 weeks activity and nothing less.(like it is right now )
People are doing m+/raiding even now because they got upgrades from the vault ~ what are you telling me is that we are doing delves just for the ~ weekly vault ~ trade crests:D
For me this model is pretty bad because there is nothing worth grinding and doesn’t provide satisfaction at the moment that becomes more like a chore .
The t11 gives gilded crest that in order to cap or better to say craft the gear you need to play for 50 weeks ~
Even with what you say doing the weekly=trade for runed=gilded etc you must play at least 35-40 weeks again .
Not only that but delver player must pay~ for all the crafted item something that m+/raider won’t need .
Already the participation in delves is quite low~simular with m+ and i wonder until season 2 how many will still play (For me at least i won’t have a sub to do some weekly chores )
Except your second paragraph illustrates that it’s true what Souldefiler meant: Delves are an inconvenience to the M+ crowd, so Delve vault is getting nerfed, and after years of seeing things getting nerfed because raiders/M+ whined about it, yes, it was obvious this was going to happen.
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