Yes I agree, I think staggering is harder when mob health less, and also with higher ilevel DPS too, in a way it makes bursting harder. The bursting hard values now seems way more punishing at low keys than at high ones.
I think a big part is as MW pretty much all of my “heals the group” spells are very gentle, periodic in nature. Font has a Cd and on its own, doesn’t actually heal that much and takes between 2-3 secs to do all of the flat healing. Jade winds is good over duration, but the duration is twice as long as bursting. The only other option I have is renewing mist cleave vivify but the cleave is woefully weak on higher bursting stacks and is limited to RM targets only, which Means it cannot be the whole group.
I’ve found just throwing font up and triage vivify at target works best then Jade wind on way to next pack, but the issue is this absolutely destroys my mana, so eventually it catches up with me, because healers drinking in M+ is very taboo. I try to sneak in a drink where I can, bit with the drink change, it’s ineffective when you have a tank that doesn’t clock and isn’t attempting to kite or AM to ease their intake whilst you get some mana. I’m talking those Veng dudes who leap into a pack and 2 secs later they’re somehow at half health.
My issue would be resolved by a comm I think, I’ve joined a couple that advertise “all keys, all welcome, positive vibes” but since joining two weeks ago I haven’t seen a single key advertised below 14 and nobody seems interested in my lower ones! I get it, I’m late to the party after all. I hope next season I’ll start earlier. I know from experience in BFA having a regular team or roster of folks makes a huge difference to M+, but I don’t have a contact base on horde like I do on ally, it’s a bit new, unfamiliar, and strange. Still having fun though!
Overall your ilvl is way higher than the keylevel you are running. It is very possible you are grouped with inexperienced players who just think ‘dead is dead’ without caring about any bursting timing. DoS i do find a bit tricky too with bursting since you got some bigger pulls, on the platforms and in ardenwald.
It kinda is and isn’t. Like many affixes it’s one the healer has to compensate for poor execution of, but due to the presentation of it, people treat it as a healer throughput affix as if all healers have the same kit.
At 195 ilevel I simply don’t have the tools to deal with a 24k+ dot over 4 secs (or more if stretched) on the group outside of revival, I just don’t, and I doubt many other healers at that ilevel would either. Not an issue if everyone is at full health and uses skills to mitigate a bit, but that rarely happens!
My ilevel jumped up quite a lot last night as I picked up some BoEs using my gold saved from LW profiteering, so most of my 4-5s have been at around 192 ilevel, which is kinda slightly over. I’m trying to run keys in order and do no skips where poss as I haven’t done m+ seriously since BFA, which explains my inflation (also it’s very easy to get 197iah outside of M+)
I concede I’m probably bad at bursting somewhat, but it feels like groups work against me on it a lot! In BFA I was a resto shaman and bursting even in PUGs was EZ comparatively.
I knew MW was in a rough spot before I started so I wasn’t expecting sunshine for sure! It was kinda a last minute decision where I was going to try to go for a late KSM as Brm but changed my mind as I wanted Faeline Stomp As it matches NB colour palette (lol, it is what it is), hadn’t really tried MW, so yeah, very much baptism by fire.
I hope you don’t get discouraged by it. You as a healer will find out the higher you get the better the players will be and the easier it will get Unless you do really high keys, of course.
Thanks, I won’t! I just need to give it weeks, find a Comms that works or build my friend list up. I spam about it in good groups thereafter and I’ve picked up about 6 people over past 9 days!
I’ll get there I think despite the difficulty really freaking loving how MW plays ATM is really helpful!
Yes i am FWer, teachings is too strong ATM to ignore, and gives good ST how but very little mana, which is huge given MW mana costs. I do want to try Tear after I have it max and will probably use that on bursting weeks when I get it as extra RM, cleave heal and enveloping mist cleave seems super helpful for bursting. But I cants say no to FW healing ATM, RSK critting for 11k healing when vivify heals for 3k is too juicy. Also the max ToTM stack BoK heals spreading as they do is good for steady aoe healing.
If I could kick something when bursting is ticking, I’d be fine, BoK would do it. But sadly, FW healing is pretty unremarkable when I can’t attack something!
Pugs never seem to be able to kill tarvold, I go oom before the boss is anywhere close to dead. Made the mistake to try doing it on +14 this week, we wiped on the boss and they tried to pin the blame on me even though the wipe was due to me going oom after holding 7k hps up until that point. The reason I went oom? One dps doing 1.8k dps and another doing 3k. Like, why are they in a +14? The boss would’ve been dead long before I went oom if people had been doing the dps I’m doing as shadow and I don’t even know how to play shadow.
Yeah, it is when people aren’t doing anything about it. When it’s ticking for 8k every time along with all the other damage in the fight, it becomes a DPS race, kill the boss before I’m going oom or we are going to wipe.
If I go oom and we wipe as a result, the DPS is too low. Like, dude, I don’t know how to play shadow priest and I’m doing 6k dps. These people are in similar gear to me and one of them did 1.8k dps and one did 3k dps as the highest.
Well, all the things you say has 0 to do with fort or tyrannical. I agree they should not do a +14 with those dps numbers at all. None of the dungeons.
It would be doable on a +14 fortified, because the boss would’ve been dead even with those numbers and I wouldn’t have been oom, lol.
But yeah, all groups I’ve tried doing SD with on tyrannical can’t get past tarvold because they all lack the dps. Every time we wipe, it’s because I’m going oom.
Unless you do really high keys, of course.
I think despite the difficulty really freaking loving how MW plays ATM is really helpful!