Season of Discovery Class Tuning - 20 December

One viable spec while paladin can play 3 roles - okay

in what way? ret paladin having to run avenger shield to catch up?

When a class outperforms any other healer by this much and are so OP in bgs in premade groups, says a lot about them needing adjustments.

I’m all for tuning the heal priest a bit provided that it’s other spec is given a bit of love; I don’t think that’s asking much.

wait, no hunter nerf? more paladin OP?
did anyone ever think that hunter were OP because blizzard simply didn t develop properly the other classes? no? is hard to correlate facts?

You genuinely do belong on retail with all the other toxics though ALl of your posts on the forums are toxic to the max

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Mail+ Burst+ Utility+ Healing+ AOE+ Bubble+ Save+ Stun+ Uncondispellable slow- Weak+

Absolutely the LEAST honorable and shameless playerbase out of all classes, worse than Hunters. The audacity to just sit here and pretend you guys aren’t badly overtuned with your lvl 80 kits at 25.

You bugged living flame. If two mages cast it only the one who cast it first does damage.

Phase 2 with more talents

i’m not toxic, i’m oldschool
YOU better go to retail, you toxic using the word “toxic”, like you are perfect…
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:face_with_symbols_over_mouth:
:rofl:

even if i’m raw, i make people have a good time and laugh.
You just a stupid cringe paladin defending horde’s crybaby tears

Priest healing still overtuned by about 200%

You’re delusional.

Que a WSG at least once in your life, and see the uselessness of a Ret Paladin.

I have seen them owning 1v1 all over the world, dont get your point

My point is for WSG, your point is to disprove my point by saying they are killing people in world PvP.

Read first.

90% of your comments are negative, what’s wrong with you bud?

I’ve been a paladin for 15+ years, plenty of that is salt

EDIT:
Also when you get harassed in Classic for being a Ret paladin for over a decade you do tend to hate everyone back.

Can confirm, in Vanilla I leveled a Paladin because didn’t know anything and was like “I’m a big and awesome holy warrior oh yeaahhh!”… then got to 60 and spent 2 years being a healbot, because it’s the only thing this dog class was good at.

Since then I have such a PTSD - I refuse to play any class that has a healing offspec.

Thankfully, I rolled Lock at the end of Vanilla and I was free and happy and mained it since. But people who kept being paladins… man I can understand their anguish and broken souls.

The massive advantages the alliance has, both with ratial abilities and classes like the paladin, is spoiling the game is creating an unhealthy inbalanced.
This is not to mention the massive advantage of they have in their starting grounds, e.g. westfall and the ability to farm hundreds of mobs already bunddled up for them and the aboundance of resources. e.g Two big mines in the human side very close to their starting zone.

The paladins bubbles, healing and armour makes it nearly impossible for any class to kill them. It is frustrating and demoralising. Many players will leave if this inbalanced is not corrected. We are all paying players and deserve to have a fair chance to win. Most of
WoW has been traditially based on paper, rock and sissors with each class having some advantages and vulnerabilities.
Currently all classes have some vulnerabilities but certain combos in the alliance like the paladin humans make them inmune. They beat rock, paper and sissors all togethered.

I wish the developers could join a WS even just as witness and see what is going on there. Currenlty Horde wins one and the alliance wins 9. It is ridiculous and off putting.
It must put off the few conscientious alliance players too if they are just winning without any challenges.

Another problem is the requirement to do big raids to be able to equip onself with the
items needed to survived a few seconds and not being one shot by pallies or some other twink.

There are many players that don’t have the time or just don’t want to do raids but they should still be entitled to obtain items equally available to those in raids. Many horde players tend to be older the alliance players and want to enjoy PvP without having to
commit to specific times and lently raids. Some of us can build up the time and put in similar amount of effort but not necessarily inside a raid. There needs to be a way of making this happen.

In my main character not a single blue or purple item has dropped out if the world for me and I have done a lot of grinding. This could compesate a little for players who don’t want be raiding. WS in the original 2006 version, when I played for the first time, allowed you to build up honor very quickly and exchanged a few tokens for pvp blue guear. Now with the premades. I must admit I don’t look forward to going into WS any more because I have always found myself facing entire groups of twinks with very high bars many nearing 2000 mana and other very high stats. There must be a way to match total HP per opposing teams at least.
Why pitch a very low team against twink teams all the time?
The option of join the first available has always pitched me against twink teams.
Out of about 10 games I only won one.

If you don’t tackle this massive imbalance head on many players will leave. At the end of the day we pay to have fun and if there isn’t fun then I personally will stop paying my subscription and I am sure many horde players will end up doing the same.

I am sorry about the longhtly text. I couldn’t make it any shorter

Glad to see Blizzard actively balancing the classes, hope they make the same effort towards banning bots and gold sellers/buyers.