New runes and content, not removing existing content.
They promised to not change 40 man raids and look MC is ruined, and people invested effort to build guilds with 40 man fun in mind. Why do you think someone send more than 1 team to the raids?
Maybe to build a team for future? Why do someone manage all that if not for the promised 40 man fun and to have something that will be unique.
Whatās really odd about this defense of Molten Core being twenty-man, is that if the meta is correct that these persons like the āpretzels and sodaā approach, then wouldnāt Molten Core with easy mechanics, more powerful abilities and better gear- be fun with double the amount of persons? You know the persons you should like playing with?
And that as has been stated before is part of the issue. Persons are not interested in playing with others (not on a coordinated level), rather they have a personal goal in-game, that supersedes everything else and the only need others to achieve it.
Effectively their viewing it through an incorrect lens thatās not compatible with the design of the product.
Though the good news is, Retail offers exactly that - funny enough, a trend that developed in the market place which Blizzard responded to meet ācustomerā demand.
Maybe they should stop asking us for feedback and just deliver the product they as the artist want to.
arenas would be sick af, i love pvp. but bgs at times feel like more of a numbers game than a skill game. been talking with a couple of guildies about this, and having an arena to que up for would give so much to the game imo.
also, stv event is very fun
-20 man lesgo!!! finally our guild will be able to raid together!
-so far p2 is a blast, stv event fun, gnomer is fun, and more mechanics heavy than bfd. more like this plz
Great news I do have a bit of burn out from sod and I only leveled my priest to 40 this phase and raided once, didnāt enjoy healing in AB and just put sod to a side but you can clearly see they are trying their best and making some great changes. W sod team
This! so badly!
ther are so many non direct connections that make us fly back and forth with no reason whatsoever. it just takes too much time.
please, make more direct connections between flight path, specially when they are close together.
Yeah why not change waiting on zep and ships and the endless travel that always made Classic questing gurgle compared to TBC that had questhubs.
And leave the most fun part alone that is raidin with 40 ppl.
This. I loved the original iteration of classic when the game was new, I have fond memories of the guild I progressed through it with and some of us still keep in touchā¦ but by large those are exactly just that, memoriesā¦ SOD isnāt a 1:1 take on classic
Thats not to say there arenāt things I dislike about SOD itselfā¦ but they set the precedent for tweaking about the raid sizes when they revamped BFD and more recently Gnomeā¦ for what its worth I get the impression the next revamp will be BFD because of geography, and given it was originally set to be a raid in the first place
My concern going forward is if they plan to do more stuff like STV the rewards should be locked for the first week or made available in tiers (w1 : blue, w2 : purp etc akin to how they put weekly lockout for 2 weeks on gnomer)ā¦ so if something is broken with it, ppl donāt get to simply exploit it because as things stand the message being sent is if you take advantage of something before its fixed you get away with it
the open world is already so terribly crowded tho.
at least on my server, even at 4am on a monday thereās 10+ ppl going for the same quest mobs and it takes 30 minutes + to get 1 simple quest done. And no1 wants to team up, not even lvl 40ās that dont lose xp from doing so.
Iām all for open world content, but with more layers please.
Are you sure those were not in fact bots? I tried last night to kill nagas on my pala for the gnomer quest and today when I finally finished it, iāve had the pleasure of meeting 17(!!) different hunter botsā¦ Some real people too of course.
(and hopefully my and/or our report attempts accomplished something greater than a quest complete.)
Also on this note iāve seen someone here mention something like to increase gathering nodes/respawns to help. But I honestly think the respawn rates and such are almost too good alreadyā¦ Getting rid of the bots who outnumber the real players by 10>1 would probobly be a better solution than giving the no rest farming bots just greater gain oppurtunities IMO.
Althoughā¦ I have stopped mostly going out gathering since it is just heartbreaking and soulcrushing trying to compete with the machines so maybe more spawns would help but something tells me it really wont.
Iām definitely not speaking for everybody, but most people I know will just quit over the changes in raid size, we have a group of friends, we donāt want to manage players nor babysit them in 40man. ( or 20 ).
So thatās it for us I guess.
Have fun.
aight, bit of feedback / sugestions 
first of, ty for all the hard work sofar, I am having a blast in SoD, loving most of the priest runes (not counting Homunculi ofc) and shadow feels a lot better specially now at lvl 40.
anyway, thatās my thouhts sofar.
be well all ! <3
Some of the worst most socially disruptive and toxic changes you did were changes to raid size, such as the change from 40 to 25 man and starting out a raid tier with a 10 man raid as the main attraction. Some of the best changes in that area were your flex raid changes and the times we got to decide between 10 man and 25 man on the same lockout in Cataclysm.
I can tell you that once you start changing raid sizes, be it up or down, there will be NO TRUST that you wont do it again and again and again. Consistency is key to being trusted.
No one I play with likes that idea, because we HAVE BEEN THERE. We have DONE THAT. That is not something we need to ādiscoverā. I can tell you that 8 to 9 people out of the 11 or so I raid with are going to look for a replacement activity the moment we feel you are moving in that direction.
PS:
Please do something about whoever designs the hunter class. This is subpar. Subpar design, subpar balance, subpar care and quality. It stinks.
It fits the pattern, but is very disappointing, that NOTHING of that sort ever manifested as content for us to ādiscoverā. A lot more could be said about the sorry state of this particular class, but I donāt think whoeover is responsible for it, is currently measuring up to the most tempered of expectations.
This thing with exp boost 1-39 doesnāt think it belongs in wow classic vanilla has never been something that belonged to the game at all. It ruins the whole social aspect of the game. Things should take a long time, thatās the philosophy of an MMO, things are slow and thatās what we liked in 2004-2006.
My suggestion is that you add so that you get more exp if you run group quests such as Elites, or instances, they create community.
What donāt you understand about this being a seasonal server?
No increasing the nodes will not help against bots. At best you will be able to get your compos faster , but it would crash the prices.
The reality is that we have only one solution , get rid of the bots. We need a decisive answer because everybody can see them. They are in every farming location. Maybe paying a few people on each server to parse the reports people did and effectively ban bot on sight , making it less profitable for bots and maybe one day get rid of them.
No, its season of discovery. From what you write there is nothing in this game mode for you. Maybe go back to classic era. You can continue with the 40 man MC gdkps until the government cancels your welfare check and you canāt pay sub anymore.
People who view SoD through the lense of āthis is classicā and āno changesā have fundamentally misunderstood the idea of SoD.
4 horsemen have literally one thing to pay attention to, so yes, compared to literally anything after vanilla, there are no mechanics. 25 man Naxxramas is harder than 40 man Naxxramas, because you had to use more than one spell while facerolling it. I guess the tryhard guilds that didnāt manage to down them were just really bad at the game.
If vanilla is challenging to you, then maybe you are just that. Challenged.
That sounds great, thanks a lot for sharing the rationale.
It looks amazing! I only dreamed that the raids on 40 players would be reduced, because this is a relic of the past. And now itās starting to become a reality! 10 players were great, 20 will be amazing as well. Please keep this intention - WE DONāT NEED RAIDS ON 40 PEOPLE!