Season of TBC

Agreed. After SoD they should move on to other expansions imo. Obviously starting with TBC.

Oh man, i cant wait till we have the privilige to observe all the bots with random combitation of latin syllables finally wrap up their pack farming of raw gold in SoD Classic

so that not-a-broke-boys could buy their bis gear from gdkp raids with real money and all that hot mess will transition to TBC SoD…

What a pleasure to not be a part of all of this.

What we need is hypeless, botless, seasonless, English 3 Era servers for each of 3 Classic games.
For people who want to play the social game and enjoy their adventure, not this broken cycle of bots - gdkp - new expac.

I truly see where you’re coming from, but I’ve accepted it as it is now. Wow is popular again and I rather have full servers and no trouble to find groups for quests and dungeons than some private server experience where the toe- dippers have already left after 1 month. Not to mention guilds.

And yeah before classic I did try out a ps or two for tbc. Most were dead during SSC progress. I get TBC is the least popular of the classic trilogy, that’s why a season of something something in TBC would make sure we get to re-experience it again. Releasing a tbc era server now would be bad timing imo.

Because of the SoD?
So even if there is gonna be TBC SoD in 2026 it will last only 1,5 years or less and then will be WoTLK SoD and etc…

So this possibility is too far away and its gonna be too short.
In other words thats not a solution, thats a hamster wheel of dissapointment.

I guess i will try to play both Midnight and TBC SoD, with that level of pace i can safely skip buying subtime up until the time of the launch of both in 2026.

would be cool

I don’t like the seasonality.
I also don’t like how BC made most of the vanilla content obsolete. Apparently a lot of people like if things expire, but then you lose the permanent, persistent world an you create a need for a perpetual change (expansion over expansion every year or two). It’s like expectation of growth in business, try to do it permanently but it’s not really feasible - it lead to what is retail.

I do like most of the QoL changes BC brought though, together with 25 man raids (I like 40 but I’m told it’s really hard to manage), or heroic dungeons. Like dual spec, like that more specs are more viable, but its fine if each class excels at one thing and hybris don’t make other classes obsolete.

Honestly I would prefer if the software would be a lot more scalable. You could have several versions, just chose what to play and play it, not as much monolithic, standalone versions running on servers that are overcrowded at start and empty laters. Kinda one big server with dynamic layers / shards, so I don’t get 10 trade spam per second, but I find a group for my dungeon easily.

BC - maybe with some careful with some changes - would be nice, but no SoD bs, and no seasonality. :frowning: I could say kinda how d2r turned out ok (few questionable changes, but for the most part original game with modern QoL improvements).

p.s. Official daily, weekly, monthly statistics and historical data of active users (on level brackets perhaps) would be helpful, on a server / version breakdown, it would help see how playerbase changes and what are current numbers. It’s probably more telling of what people want, than any nostalgia in this thread.

Technically it is, there are just some choices regarding UI.
Which are most irrelevant as those using it as-is are likely few.

Everything else is parameters. The world (paths), creatures, spells, numbers…
I’m 98.7% certain that the back ends for classic and retail are the same.
The difference is the config it loads. Era, SoD, WLK, Cata (under testing for sure), retail…

Same about the client actually, mostly at least (proof: settings).
So the real question is, do various versions need different UIs (auction house, single column quest log, spell book), or should we have maybe two (classic / modern). There are some practical differences like not showing buff duration, but even that is parameter (given it’s the raid UI)…

Some add-ons like Questie would have a really bad time with that model, though.

for all the cringe lords who claim that “this will divide the playerbase”
i have an eye opener - it was Blizzard who divided the player base by making cloning services for Classic games not free.

Imagine how good would be to have all 3 Classic games and freely copy your character from Classic → TBC → Wrath.
You and your guild could always find something exciting to do, your community wouldnt be divided into various expacs and the private servers would take a seat.

Classic Era is in a fantastic spot now with tourists waiting for Cata in Wrath and 2 braincells edgelords parsing their 2 button logs in SoD.
To preserve this community and let it flourish it would be smart to let them copy their beloved characters progressively through actual Classic games and keep all the connections.

Also please keep SaDers and Catastrophers out :wink:

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By the way, the US region has the similar thread:

So this isn’t just some EU only demand/need. Its fair to say its a universal ambition by the players who were kicked out of their home into the frozen wastes of Northrend.

That’s a good sign! We absolutely need tbc back.

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I hope, although its a glimpse of hope, they actually let us the TBC enjoyers to gather in Blasted lands and open the Dark Portal as a live event.

And just like that we would be gone from Era, like the Turalyon and Alleria, with all of the warriors raiding Naxx spitting in the disbelief.
Even if there will be 100 of us at first in EU that would be so epic.

Plot twist, what if next blizzcon at the end of season 6 in Sod they decide to announce a phase 7 that is TBC?

How would you receive it?

With dissapointment.
I do not want:
Seasonal
With changes
With wrath abilities
With SoD bots
I want:
Seasonless
With no end term / no wrath in 1 year.
With no changes
With small community of enthusiasts = bots not profitable.

Also please limit gold transfer from Vanilla to TBC to 1k gold max. That will make 280 flying a real goal and not a guaranteed immideate thing so that farming of nodes/herbs wont be left in 1 person hands from the start.
You can keep your gold in Vanilla where you earned it.

I’d love to see TBC again. Though to be honest, I’d prefer the Azeroth content to be as it was pre-nerf… The mount prices, the outdoor elite areas, the XP gain, everything as it was before that patch (2.3 was it? I can’t remember). The way it was when I originally started WoW. But that’s just me.

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That would be super weird and would require a lot of balancing since loads of runes are just a plain copy of a TBC ability. I mean technically it would be possible for them to ‘retire’ the vanilla runes / disable them above 60, and make new ones that are only found in TBC content.

Now that I think about it, this would be awesome.

The thing is, it’s always going to be seasonal, especially if it’s fresh (which most people want I presume). Even if they promise to give us a fresh progressive TBC server we’d be stuck in a somewhat dead realm a few months after Sunwell.

This might kick up a bit again after a while but it’s always bound to be pretty much empty after all phases have run it’s course. That said they should defo NOT delete the realm like they did the first time so we can still keep our progress and raid in a TBC setting that is current.

Yep. I also prefer vanilla but i would not mind a fresh pte experience :slight_smile: after all, TBC raiding (pre nerf) was best.

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if Blizzard aim is to insist on temporary / resettable Classic realms they will inevitably leak players to pservers. and these players will spend lavishly on some of shop items in these servers and grow attached to them. like that War… Lich server or End… TBC server/

because the only reason to pay sub is the continuity of your characters and stability of the hardware.
pserves also innovate and have their own visions of Classic+ and etc.
I guess losing sub money in the innovative ways is the Blues goal here :slight_smile:
okay!
have fun in your temporary TBC and etc o/’

P.S. you see Retail is also seasonal and gear resets, but it lets me keep the Collection - thats the continuity part.
Classic with reset is just 0 progress :slight_smile: why pay for that if i can get that gameplay for free!
Too many questions, too little time

I agree we should get a permanent TBC server; but preferably a fresh progressive one.

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sure, i can meet you half way there and agree on this compromise.

would it be ok if my Classic character would be available for copy in a half of the year / a full year after the fresh TBC starts?
that way there won’t be even remote power transfer.
and ofc the gold cap limit of 1000g or less is a must.