Season of Warriors

Yes a good ol’ rage normalization!

I love how people pretend to forget that this is a level bracket where hunter are supposed to shine.
Yet it’s the only class that has been constantly nerfed for no reason other than pvp ngue ngue.

Going into phase 2 if those nerfs are not reverted and they keep the trend of leaving warriors alone it’s going to be the final statment of the company inneptitude.

BTW reason why casters (eccept warlock which is ridiculous) are not performing the best, is literally because they are 1 skill rank away from being in line to melee.

The fact that they manage to do warrior the best dps in the game and decently strong in pvp from phase 1 is something that exceeded my expectations. You know what they say “When in classic, better roll warrior”

Warriors arent as overpowered. Logs dont rly show them that massively ahead atleast compared to top 3.

Also, theyre only that high if all things are present. 1they demand alot of things present to rly achieve this.

Nothing was ever gonna make warriors scale worse. They dont nerf / buff core skills so realistically prolly more of a joke then anything.

Warriors have always been rly good when supported and subpar when not

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Tbh warriors srill pretty bad in pvp. But its suprising how much better they are then classic in pvp. I think at 40 they gonna be a real threat

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depends on what you mean by pvp. Premades are always running one or two warrior so they definitely not bad.

that be true, they have a place in WSG Premades, they still get battered in open world though haha

Well it’s classic, warrior were the best. What do you expect

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Should we also talk how broken mages are?
Aoe down dungeons with instant heals like there is no tommorw? How more broken will it be in phase 2?
And number 9 in top is in fact a mage. Also rogues and druids in top 100.
In the ebd does it really matter whos top 100 in logs where only small % of playee competes?
Your avreage sod player doing just whatever class he/she chooses and doing just fine. There is also not only dps in logs, but also tanks/heals logs.
Alot of guilds doing speed runs in logs right now and warriors are fine, but aoe classes better in thoose runs.

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Spotted the warrior main and the 3 warriors mains that upvoted :joy:

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He aint wrong though realistically. and No i aint a warrior main lol.

Warriors will always end up top, Their scaling is simply too strong to be any other way, the class will suck for the majority. but those that raid and Get BiS will absolutely wreck with the class.

Hunters didnt really need the same however, They were good just off the bat, it Didnt need gear, Nor support to realistically work. Hence why warriors suck in PvP outside of Premades lol. because it demands a Pocket healer to do anything worthwhile.

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Restrain ? Straight murdering the rune and hello hamstring fishing again ?
Is this how u imagine warriors to be ? Autoattack / hamstring simulators ?
The ONLY way warrior dps is lowered without murdering the class is scaling of weapon dmg.
If u make it so quick strike does not proc WF = nobody use the rune since it does very pathetic damage itself and ppl will spam hamstring to fish for WF procs and will use another passive rune .
Yes something must be done ( if anyone care that much about dumb damage meters ) ,but that something is not deleting runes or make warrior absolute dog so u all can be happy!
Warrior is a warrior and btw if we are not in a raid with healers , taking damage on purpose and having WF … warrior is absolute auto attack simulator.
Ppl stop complaining so much, hunter OP in pvp , warrior in pve , rogue in both , boomkin brain dead , mages can heal and kill a whole fokin dungeon , paladins bubbles bla bla bla bla bla bla … the FOK already.
Vanilla / classic / SOM / SOD was never balanced , never intended to be balanced and WILL NEVER BE balanced, so have some fun and unless it is game breaking stop looking what some other class can do that u cant. WTF lets make all classes the same then with the same spells and same damage numbers alright then ?
U are looking 2 much for balance of EVERYTHING not damage meters, balance in pvp , balance in farming , balance in whatever , it is rock paper scissor game and it will never happen.
If you are top of the cream competitive person , if you are never happy and always looking what the rest are doing and how it is unfair , your game should be something like counter strike where its just you and how good your eyes and wrist are .
Now im not saying stuff like 42 yard range star surge should exist or pet stronger than a warrior ( which is not the case anymore ) ,but at this point everyone wants ABSOLUTELY everything paladins with bubbles and heals want warrior’s charge , healers cry about mage healing , hunters are outranged for the first time in their life by boomkin and cry a river and so on . I understand things can be frustrating at some point ,but WHEN is the moment when u enjoy this game and dont give a fok how and what the rest are doing if it isnt literally game breaking . I wish damage meters never existed . Pve should be about fun and killing dumb dragons with your crew , pvp is where the things should be balanced around for me. Yes i know im biased and many dont give a fok about pvp ,but hear me out. If things are unfair in pvp they are unfair vs other players , bosses and trash does not care if some of your abilities are OP. I dont see Akumai crying on forums for my star surge. Fok details , fok warcraft logs .
Now im prepared for the hate and i dont give a flying…

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This class STILL shines after constant nerfs. Hunter is still great as DPS, great in PVP, godmode in solo-outdoor gameplay and great at farming.

Warrior is great at DPS and absolutely awful at all the others.

You’re joking, right?

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I like how almost no one mention Feral mangle (+30% bleed damage) as a reason why deep wounds hit as much as it does. Not to mention wild strike.

Exact same thing for rogues with saber slash.

And well, Mangle was never in vanilla contrary to WF/ WS

Because it’s literally the same game. They added some new abilities and raids.

Talents and baseline abilities will (HOPEFULLY NOT) not be changed.

What do you expect? I am however a but surprised warriors are so strong in only level 25.
But classic is where warriors shine, they will do the same here most likely

Last week i Joined a premade with 4 warriors & a feral, zero hunters…thinking oh we’re edited by moderation

Much to my surprise we won 17/0, against various fotM premades, ie 4 x hunter 3 priest & fc, 4 x boomie etc…

No tentative eyeing up the oponents in the middle, just charging in. Easy to focus one melee, not so easy with 5.

Everyone was gs 300+ though.

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I can certainly see that.

Hunters slice through clothies and rogues like a hot knide through butter, because on top of their low armor, they also try to be more defensive.

I bet 4x warriors with a good support can just charge in past pets and wreck.

So you want to nerf warriors because they’re actually useful when they have wildstrikes / windfury?

Have you seen warriors without wildstrikes? They’re nothing more than cannon fodder.

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No, do not want warrior nerf and I agree, feral made the warriors. Without, totally meh.

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I gave you my arguement why i think warriors are more than decent in pvp. In the end it all comes to two things,
Do you top dps metters: Yes
Are you wanted in wsg premades:Yes
There is no way to balance all classes around everything and when it comes to warriors they are successful in the two most important aspects of the game.
Warriors were pretty useless solo in vanilla classic too, but everybody considers them by far the most broken class of the game, so i just can’t see your points