‘Everybody’? Warriors are the top DPS. They’re mediocre/bad at everything else. That isn’t the definition of broken.
Hell, they NEED the support of other classes to even be good at PVP. Meanwhile, you have mages that are great DPS, incredibly utility and absolute god-mode solo play and farming.
Your argument for ‘Warriors are good at pvp’ is ‘because premades run then!!’. Yeah, premades run the ‘buff everyone’ comp. Take away the support from a warrior and you have an absolute garbage class that can’t do anything by itself.
Are you kidding me man? Apart from their abilities to solo dungeons mages are in a pretty bad spot. The game is not getting balanced around SOLO stuff. Nobody cares if a mage aoes dungeons or a hunter killed you on outworld pvp. Btw it is kinda obvious blizzard doesn’t bother fixxing warriors at this phase because next phase they get berserkers, mortal,wirlwind and intercept.
Warrior is a great PVE class when given the proper support from OTHER CLASSES. But when it comes to PVP, warrior is easily the worst class, and it’s not even a debate, and it’ll continue to be the worst, just like in classic. Warrior is having the roughest time finding premades because they are mega useless without mortal strike. Sure, it’ll change, but people make it seem like the class is not struggling.
There is more to the game than PvE bosses with 2 mechanics.
While i agree Warrior is great and solid in PVE it tends to be the least played class (I’ve been a Warrior main since Vanilla TBC) because it’s just nowhere nearly as fun as say Rogue outside of raid enviorment… Your survival is terrible in a pvp scenario you’re just a free kill to gankers even with Warbringer, you’re the most vulnerable class in pve content and weakest in terms of survival in WPVP. . I more or less rerolled Rogue because the DPS output is about the same as Warrior except you can stealth around soloing mobs in dungeons, hit like a truck in wpvp or stealth skip undesired or unwinable fights, you now also have 2 specs which i love so tanking is also really strong as Rogue and imo beats Warrior in-terms of threat and overall performance as SS and SnD is most of your dmg output anyways, i’ve never had any issues with aoe threat as Rogue whereas runes just RiPs my threat as Warrior. Rogue tanking is also better survival because you parry like 70% of what the raid throws at you.
Only part i enjoy Warrior is sitting 240+ DPS in raiding… But auto attacking praying for WF procs to get to 80 rage and then just spam quick strike isn’t exactly … Fun… So you’re topping the boards, but you feel 0 satisfaction.
Warrior is strongest, in terms of performance, but it’s on my bottom in terms of enjoyment outside of raids. And even in raids it’s still like on the 4th spot…
Not to mention the Rage dancing at 80 requires you to have alot of rage so you’re full Zug-zug mode stressing you hard for boss fights while people buffing you just watch your rage fade away.
Except that they shouldn’t. They shouldn’t suck, but they certainly shouldn’t be the best, 2nd best, 3rd or even 4th best this time around. We need new top dogs this time.
What do you mean they shouldn’t? They don’t do changes to talents, abilities or stats. Warriors scale incredible. If you want other top dogs, it’s available on retail
Easy fix, fiddle with scaling to bring them in line. No point in making a season where everything is supposed to be different while having the same endresults of warriors being top. Either that or buff everyone else to surpass warrior.
There should be atleast 2 better tanks, and preferably all hybrids should be above warrior in dps.
But it’s going to get balanced around fully buffed DPS?
More people care about mage farming than you think, hense all the people crying about bots. Furthermore, this forum has had more complaints about hunters than every other class combined.
Just because YOU don’t care about something doesn’t mean that NOBODY cares. Your opinion is irrelevant.
3% more crit, 10% more damage taken. Yes, super OP.
Not as easy as you think. Warriors scale so well because of the way rage generation works, Blizzard could normalise rage generation, but that would completely gut the class. Rage normalisation was basically what ruined post-WoTLK warrior for a lot of us.
What on earth are you blabbing about now? So warriors should not only be the worst solo class, but should also be mediocre DPS and mediocre tanks?
The drawback to warriors right now is that they’re garbage outside of a good set up.
How can you make a warrior worse if it is literally the worst class in solo pvp and pve. If you are attacked by two mobs, you will most likely die if you do not use heal potion, I’m not talking about pvp, anyone can kill a warrior in solo…
Warrior is a class that kinda sucks on it’s own and gets boosted a lot by being amped up by other classes like wild strikes/wf
Same for PVP, on it’s own they are basically garbage but in grp content you can’t really do without
But there is also the issue, PVE is very controlled so you can just sit there spam ability global after global, not so much PVP. Anything they touch for PVE will hurt PVP twice as hard.
And in the end there will always be a class ruling the DPS meters, warrior especially in classic is THE class to just go crazy with good gear and buffs the way it should be imo.
The whole point of classic is the “unbalance” each class has a very unique playstyle and set of abilities that each fulfill a different purpose, your class is good at one thing but complety sucks at another, same way you should avoid some classes/races in PVP because you basically lose no matter what, that’s just classic.
Warrior with gear top DPS meters, hunters with pets solo hard content etc etc etc
Again, remove your goggles. Nobody is taking about duos, I’m talking about the warrior itself.
SoD’s rule of thumb is to not make warrior worse, but to lift up the other classes to be much closer to warriors, which it has, and nobody can deny it.
