Completely bad take thread. Sure, you can be making mistakes and self improvment is fine, but it’s not always the case.
The only thing that matters in Solo Shuffle is MMR. You get off to a bad start, you’re stuck, even if you’re a 3k experience player. Best example - being a healer. Your first shuffle games include people who don’t understand the concept of line of sight, running away, pressing defensives… You cannot save a guy that just wants to die alone behind a pillar.
Same goes if you are a dps. You are the kill target - your other dps can do nothing to help you out. Example: You have a warrior that never presses his fear, intervene, rallying cry. You went through all your defensives, mobility, everything you can do to survive and try to score the kill, but it didnt happen. Your healer either used everything he could, or didnt press anything for you either. You’re playing 1v5.
The reality is, a VERY big portion of shuffle games are out of your control, because you have to rely on your 2 other players to press buttons correctly. This does not happen in 80% of games, on every MMR.
That doesn’t mean you won’t pay attention to mistakes of your teammates.
If I am about to kill an opponent who is 2% hp with 50% healing reduction on him and my hunter doesn’t use Turtle defensive and we lose naturally the hunter is the guilty not me.
But yea, you can’t use the same tricks for every lobby, you need to adjust your strategy and playstyle according to the lobby.
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then you are just super inconsistent. Good healers dont randomly drop 700 cr every day.
stop these excuses nobody is wintrading at your CR lol
just accept that you are not good enough yet and need to improve. There are tons of highrated rdruids at top ratings playing right now.
Of course you will notice mistakes of other people, but you cannot do anything about them, the only thing you can do is focus on yourself and try to figure out if there was a way for you to even prevent the situation from happening. If there wasn’t, then it’s one of those games, that even the best player world would have lost, so it’s w.e.
One thing I want to mention though is, that the game has a different flow to it, whenever there is at least 1 person on the team who knows what he/she is doing. If you think to yourself: “Well my teammate died here, nothing I could have done, even the best warrior would have lost that one.”, the truth is a lot of these situations can be avoided and wouldn’t even occure if someone far better was playing the same game. It’s not only about saving these situations when they happen, it’s also about thinking 2 steps ahead and preventing loose conditions to occure, not only for yourself, but also for your teammates, no matter how tiny their brain might be. When I play a low alt and I have a tiny peanut brain on my team, I’ll try to play in a way to minimize the chance of him being able to use it, by forcing his hand a bit with my movement/targetting/decision making.
The way you play will affect everyone around you, including your enemies and even the worst player on your team (well not always, but 99% of the time).
So what you are saying is, if Pojke played exactly the same 3500 rounds instead of you, he would have bounced between the same rating range as you did, is that correct? Because if your answer to that question is “no”, then explain to me how it is not a l2p issue, if a different/better player would have gained more rating, playing the same games?
Solo shuffle as healer, and solo shuffle as DPS are two different worlds… OP speak about DPS… and all he said can go for DPS, but healer is different world, those who not believe can simple try it (priest excluded), and then come there to preach fairy tales about attitude… until than we are not on same elemental plane.
I also see someone there mention Pojke and those top druids on ladder, offcourse you cannot be like them if WoW is not your fulltime job not even that, since those guys are really talented…now to clear one thing if you hit 2100+ you are at page 5 on ladderboard, amongst first 500 best solo shuffle for most healers, also laddearboard is full of guys who get their stuff under shaddy conditions like 100 rounds played and never play again, if you can clear those and debloat the ladder than you will realize how healer life is miserable and how only few climb. (Priest excluded their ladder is fat)
I’ve meet some healers that are extremely good at following up crowd control.
Druids that cyklone and root after my steel trap and bash and cyklone the healers after my ice trap.
Had a paladin healer that won every game with me when he blind, HoJ right after my ice trap. Poof, the enemy healer gone for almost 20 seconds and warlock died.
As mentioned before , in the long run player will be in the rating his skill and spec belongs to.
For example i my self am a 1600 player and i don’t think i can go higher than that as a ret except i make some adjustments to my gameplay , play more , learn from mistakes and progress.
If i played a better spec like arms or DH that do not require a very high skill cap (assa rogue or arcane mage i think requires a higher skill to play at its best) i might have gone to 1800 but that’s it.
Practice and learning from mistakes is the No1 rule , the rest is just excuses that we use in order not to admit our own failures.
Yes there will be games where you lose due to someone else’s fault but that will happen to everyone
you have reached like 1650 in 25 rounds SSR
people usually need those round just to figure their spec out, play with ui etc
isn’t this an indicator that your spec is pretty straightforward? you connect - enemy dies
I have been playing ret for like many years and i play a lot of BGs so i do know how ret works.
That being said got nothing to do with arena since there are many things to take into consideration like positioning , giving freedom to others , BoP, Blessing of Sacrifice stuns and cc when being trained ect. Those things got nothing to do with knowing the rotation and bursting.
So to answer to your reply, No this is not how it works
yea yea, such utility and much support, maybe you ever have blessing of sanctuary somewhere in one in your builds, or simple strong burst, I leave it up to you)
not at all. i tested it myself with 3 dk’s. my main im posting with is 2.2 my sec dk is 2.4 and my third one is 2.3. so all of em are similar rating and with my third dk i played to 2k in full blue honor gear and had quite some bad lobbys and lose streaks. once u go low and outskill ur oponents u are able to dominate lobbys and get back up. thats if those losses were just bad lobbys and/or bad luck, if it wasnt and u actually belong in that lower bracket u wont climb again obviously. so ye trust me, no 3k player will ever be stuck low rating.
Old Wolf Joe
