Difference between me and you, and in fact many of you, is that I don’t pretend that I’m not toxic and then tell people to NOT be toxic while being toxic myself. That’s why you’re a hypocrite and why I’m not. 
we know that, but majority of us wants you to stop it.
I don’t care what you want. Most of you are extremely toxic yourselves, and it’s quite a performance you people put on to cover it, but unfortunately the true colours ALWAYS show.
Jeez this thread has been derailed badly. 5 man premades are giga fine.
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gj on winning btw didn’t expect that. Kudos.
Sorry, but you are the last person who should talk about Toxicity, I have often met you in random bgs at night, and I will say this, I haven’t seen a bigger cry baby about random bgs than you.
yup vs other 5 man premades
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No vs everyone
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Am I wrong?
Think that this premade issue is reaching a level of great toxicity, you have to relax friends, this is a game, this environment is not good for the community.
That being said, premades suck.
I’ve said this once, I’ll say it 7000 times.
YEET THE PREMADES
this threat devolved into entertainment. funny even.
still, let the pre-mades burn.
match premades only vs premades and allow 10mans too if you want. Premading randoms has nothing to do with “fun”, it only increases toxicity when you match them againts pugs.
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If they manage to do it without increasing the BG waiting queues, for my part there wouldn’t be much problem.
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For me neither, but we both know it will.
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Queue times would inevitably be higher on the premade side, whereas on non premade side I would expect the queue times to be significantly better. A lot of players who either barely play PVP any more or who just don’t bother as a result of the premades, would most likely play more again.
I’d wager there’d be a fair number of the the “I just want to play with my friends” brigade, would also end up in the non premade side as well cos they won’t find it so much fun having to face another premade in every game.
Separate queues for groups are a terrible idea.
Slightly debuffing larger groups in 10/15 random bgs and getting rid of queue sync is the way to go to keep things fair.
Fair? I can’t see it’s fair in any way that groups come into a raid or a team filled with randoms. All I see are players being afraid of their advantage of being a group in random bgs could be removed,
I do agree that synced queues should be removed. How can it even be allowd, beats me.
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Because groups of up to 5 are allowed in this mode and always have been. They are a legitimate part of the player base of random bgs and you face groups of all sizes constantly. Stop pretending that random bgs are somehow only for solo players just because you prefer to play alone. Whenever I play random bgs solo, I don’t complain about groups. People enjoy playing a social game with their friends and that’s a good thing.
I myself recognize that playing in groups gives you several advantages and want to counterbalance that with a disadvantage in form of a debuff. This model would create more equality between groups and solo players without inflating the queue times for groups. Don’t be selfish and only consider how a change would affect you and players like yourself, but also others.