Okay, hypothetically speaking, the benefit you gain from giving plenty of conjured water, unprompted, to a healer is as follows: the healer doesn’t care about using up conjured water that he got for free, and will drink it at every opportunity, even for 2-3 ticks between packs, therefore entering every fight on full mana and having massive safety cushion for when things go wrong. It takes you 20 sec of casting to give your run a massive safety margin.
And even more pragmatically, by following the obvious social norm (giving plenty water for free) you don’t risk getting kicked and put on ignore list by the whole group after you traveled there and argued with them over water price, thus losing 30m+ of time as well as a shred of server-wide reputation.
Any sensible leader figure would realize both almost intuitively.
It is a bit different story. You are mage and it is your class utility to make water. It is not your profession you invested money for, it is your default class ability that doesnt require any extra resources or investments. Same as for example, priest buffing stamina on your group. You dont have flask of titans, elixir of fortitude, scroll of stamina, etc in the dungeon - it is your problem that u saving money! Why priest should buff stamina for you?
It is okay, for example, ask money for water in the city for stranger - same as ask for buff for 1-2 gold. But it is not normal in the dungeon group. Imagine you need pay 1g in the dungeon to druid and priest for buff - it will be the same as refusing to give water for free to your group member! Or go without buff, use flask instead of it! You have flask in the bag prepared for raid but refuse using it in dungeon - you save money, priest won’t buff you!
I would’ve kicked you too, absolute clown behavior.
Do you also charge 5g for each party member to open a portal for them after the run?
Yeah well, when you treat people as badly as you do, don’t expect them to love you for it after?
Okey, that`s a really good points that changed my perspective, I want to thank Nicolay, Businkaa and Alprix for a really constructive answers regarding this topic.
From now on I will give all water needed in the dungeons.
As for the other guys who decided to be rude instead of dialogue in constructive and polite manner - hope you will receive the same attitude along your way)))
I can consider the topic finished, I got all the answers needed, changed my perspective and if you will excuse me - I will not read further replies.
Thanks again to those of you who shared your thoughts in constructive and polite way. <3
It is the mage’s obligation to provide water without questions, as well as the int buff and a portal after the dungeon, just like it is the warlock’s obligation to give health stones and summon people when asked. In fact, good players do it automatically and do not even wait for others to ask for it.
Every class has its own unique utility in Vanilla and if you are refusing to provide it or are demanding payment, you are getting kicked
I’ll pretend for a second that this is not a rage bait post and play along.
Imagine driving in the middle of a night, spotting a woman with a flat tire near road and actually thinking if you are going to stop by and help (for half the price a technician would ask) or ignore her and continue. Changing a wheel is easy, everybody can do it, so it’s not like she cannot do it herself. You would only help her not getting dirty, so why even bothering if there are no returns from it?
Now that’s a point I did never think of.
Before entering AV I will always have a bag full with conjured water and food. I will even have some stacks of water for those who aren’t yet level 55.
I could be rich by now, stupid me, if I had had that glorious idea of selling that stuff instead of handing it out mindlessly.
I hope you pay the Healers also for Heal per Second?
Says it all really. If you’d finished the run you’d probably have sold all your water for a profit, and, fired the rest of the group immediately after the final boss and then kept all the loot as a massive bonus.
(Next time I play my Hunter I’m gonna start charging people for every shot, after all I have to buy arrows, and it eats into my bottom line - it’s only fair.)
It is a troll, 100%. I cant believe anyone thinks like that person. Would be kicked asap if not giving water
I hope so, but given certain behaviors it’s sometimes difficult not to doubt
Yes, it was a joke in order to make some interesting and fun discussion. But what was not a joke, is that I am actually a CEO.
So stop it already please)) It has gone too far XD
You must supply water to your group for free. That’s the social expectation from the mage. You’re free to sell your water to the strangers.
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If the healer is an experienced speed runner he probably do the drink walking wich makes downtime for drinking to almost 0.
Ore he maby just was gready and took the oportunety to get alot of water so he dident need to spend some money on it. So it can be both good for the group and just selfish reson.
people were drink walking in pvp long before speedrunning was done. it’s pathetic how bad classic players are that drink walking is some kind of “speedrunner” tactic, i guess not waiting 20s between pulls for some healer with half a working limb is to speedrun for the avg classic player
Ok that is new for me that it was used in pvp.
But it dosent mater, the thing is some use it and know how to do it and some not.
some people live in a different reality and act all surprised when other people slap them into reality and common sense. If you are unable to be a social decent human being i know that there are plenty single player games where you can behave in anyway you deem necessary without any consequences aka getting kicked, and then coming to the forums and complaining that poor little CEO was treated unfairly. Please try to be part of reality and not CEO fairy tale motivated only by pure greed and selfishness.
“I work as a CEO.”
Way to reinforce stereotypes.
I would ignore her and continue. She can call a mechanican, her insurance company or even a serpent charmer before I get the risk of being the victim of a trap.