Selling water in the dungeon. Need some clarification

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Hello mates, I have a question that I’d like to discuss and get different opinions on.

Here’s the situation:
We were going to do Blackrock Depths, and our healer (a priest) asked me to give him 2 stacks of water (40 pieces), which is more than you actually need for the dungeon. I asked him what kind of water he already had in his inventory — he linked it, and it was the same quality as mine.

I told him that since he already had the same quality, his request wasn’t about improving performance or efficiency in the dungeon — it was just about saving money. It wouldn’t make the run any smoother; it would simply save him from having to buy more water on the auction house. So I offered him a fair deal: I’d sell him the water at half the auction price so we’d both benefit. His response was, “I know what I need to do,” and when I asked for clarification, he replied, “You’ll see.” Probably a threat to not heal me, roll on all the gear, or something like that.

In the end, our group leader kicked me for “causing drama” because I refused to give him the 40 waters.

So here’s my question — who do you think was right in this situation?

I totally understand if someone runs out of water or wants a higher-quality one — that makes sense, and I’d gladly provide it since it helps the group perform better. But when someone just wants to save their own gold while having the same water already, why should they be the only one to profit from it? And why does refusing such a request count as “causing drama” and justify being kicked?

I’m a Tailor with 300 skill — does that mean I should also hand out bags for the cost of materials with zero profit?

UPDATE: Okey, that`s a really good points that changed my perspective, I want to thank Nicolay, Businkaa and Alprix for a really constructive answers regarding this topic.

From now on I will give all water needed in the dungeons.

As for the other guys who decided to be rude instead of dialogue in constructive and polite manner - hope you will receive the same attitude along your way)))

I can consider the topic finished, I got all the answers needed, changed my perspective and if you will excuse me - I will not read further replies.

Thanks again to those of you who shared your thoughts in constructive and polite way. <3

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Since u asked → my opinion is: the priest / leader was right and you are totally ridiculous

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Never refuse to give water irl even .if it was mana drinking it could had been a different story but water :sweat_drops: yep give it with no questions asked

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What a troll you are :smile:

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I’ve experienced in some cases being kicked before after giving multiple stacks of water and then the group saying “thx for water bro” to me.

So nowadays I only give a random amount of the first stack, usually it’s the stack I’m drinking anyway. I do agree with the others it is ridiculous to ask for half the AH price. It is not a fair deal for temporary items.

Rarely do I get tips tho, but it’s not required but appreciated.

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That is my race that I am playing in vanilla classic .when it reaches lvl 10 I will comment from that here on wow classic forum . It’s name is proudtroll :blush:

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I really don’t get it :smile: I’m a pretty casual player — I play when I have free time outside of work and family, and I work as a CEO.
From my perspective, when someone’s goal is to reduce their costs and someone else helps them do it, that person usually gets a share. That’s how the world works.

In this case, the guy’s goal wasn’t to improve the dungeon run — it was simply to reduce his expenses. And he expects me to help him cut his costs and get nothing in return just because I can do it?

I don’t think the world works that way. I can do it when someone asks politely or when I want to help — but expecting it as a given is a completely different thing.

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Jesus, just give the healer 2 stacks of water.

It’s a group effort and you’re both part of the deal. Honestly, you really should trade the best you can to him, even without his asking. And if he has enough, he will decline it anyway.

I can’t even believe the ridiculousness of this discussion. But who knows. Maybe I’m really getting too old.

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u also wanna sell water to your guild mates?
would be an instant gkick from me :joy:
i´d expect u to trade the priest 120 water for free without asking as soon as he is in sight.

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Of course not) For guild mates it is for free as well as creating the bags and all other stuff. But some random guy who wants to save his gold using my skills - no, thanks.

Im sure there is a reason why mages sells portals and water in SW, enchanters selling enchants and so on. Again, its not like he was out of water or got the poorer quality. He just wanted to use mine instead of his. Give me the reason why should I help him save his gold for free?

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I can’t determine if you are mocking absurdist antisocial behaviour we see from actual CEO’s as a social commentary, or actually raised this poorly and trying to make the opposite point.

Not worrying about the expense/hassle of buying drinks improves his overall readiness (mana always topped up), the cost for you is absolutely minimal. No CEO worth their pay would try and profit from the situation, just not worth the risk of aggravating the healer. It’s also the social norm for mages to pass out (free) food/drinks and by ignoring that you excluded yourself, again not something a competent CEO would do.

Anyway, your hypothetical situation made you invest time only to miss out on a run and gain noting, so from the CEO perspective you were clearly doing something wrong.

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Imagine selling your water at the entrance of a dungeon or a BG, just imagine :rofl:

I hope it’s trolling, because at this point it’s kick + instant blacklist.

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he probably also wants money from every single group member at the end of the run for placing a portal^^
since it no longer helps the dungeon run to go smoother

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So basically what OP is saying “I waste time and mana to make those waters , it should not be free”.

Well reasonable .
Also reasonable is that the healer can than say
" Well I am wasting time and mana healing this mage , so he has to pay for each heal "
Overall good idea . Am sure op would be thrilled to live in this world .

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Nope, not that point. I`m not selling buffs or damage dealed XD))

I`m talking about the case when the guy had the water in his inventory and wanted to take free one to save his gold. Please read carefully, it is not the case when giving him water would improve our efficiency in the dung, it is the case when giving him water would save his gold a little bit.

You are a Warlock and you have summon. When you sum people it saves time to get to the dung. It is efficient, in this case he HAD his water and just wanted to use mine instead of his, it is not efficient, it is saving money for him.

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And the water he is using to recover mana he spent to heal you is not free .
Therefore he should not be healing you , because you have not payed and will therefore save money if he does not heal you , or kick you from the group .

And you can make money staying in stormwind selling water instead of going to a dungeon expecting someone to work for you while you take money from them .

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I`m investing my time to understand why here things work different than in the real world. It would be very nice to know that people in this game are so much altruistic)) But unfortunately I do not see it. And this same healer, for instance, despite having his own water enough for this run, demand for mine in order to not to buy next stack on the auction and save some money - can go after dung to westfall to farm light feathers and then sell it to me twice their actual worth - and nobody see the problem here.

But anyway, thanks for your opinion, it is trully appreciated.

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Now this is how you troll! I was mid way through typing a rage post insulting you as a human irl and your parents for raising a little monster when I realized what you are doing. Good job, you nearly got me. 9/10 effort. I am genuinely impressed.

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That`s is actually very good point. Thanks for bringing this angle.

But if we follow this logic than damage dealers are not equal)) And when mage can give a “payback”, than warlock cant, therefore, priest should be healing only the mage that gave him water. Probably thats why i didn`t put this angle into consideration, but anyway, thank you very much for this point, the most constructive answer so far.

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serious question: are you heavily autistic?

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